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Old 02-02-2006, 03:32 PM
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inappropriate conversation


Many of my messages in the "world's worst guitarist" thread have been shut down and deleted for being "inappropriate conversation"

I want to know why bascially all of my messages were deleted when the topic turned to religion.

I think I was very subjective with the messages I did post and I don't think the messages were offensive to the extent that they should be deleted.

Maybe I've got the wrong idea and I was deleted because of off topic conversation... in that case, there is about 3000 off topic messages within threads at any time of the day.

I don't like to be the one to complain here about the Jemsite... which I love so much, but I must say, I should be entitled to voice my opinions about religion should someone bring it up in conversation. I am an atheist and proud of it. It doesn't mean I worship the devil. In fact I don't believe there is a devil so could some one fill me in on why I have been cut short.

Jemsite, maybe only you can answer this question.
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Old 02-02-2006, 03:42 PM
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Re: inappropriate conversation


most forums will delete anything regarding race, religion, creed, or politics.

Cause it will always result in feelings hurt, people upset, and negative-ness.
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Old 02-02-2006, 03:56 PM
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Re: inappropriate conversation


in that case, things like "dude you need jesus" should be deleted as well. it is not fair that someone can openly suggest that you need religion, but it isn't okay to say that you don't want to hear about it
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Old 02-02-2006, 04:43 PM
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Re: inappropriate conversation


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in that case, things like "dude you need jesus" should be deleted as well. it is not fair that someone can openly suggest that you need religion, but it isn't okay to say that you don't want to hear about it
What ever happened to free speach bro? i get nailed if i mention anything to do with sex on this site, (No Sex , No Religion) - No posts?- oh well it's the Sign of the times- No Freedom!

Cheer up bro your not the only one!- Jake.
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Old 02-02-2006, 04:53 PM
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Re: inappropriate conversation


Read the rules. They clearly state "NO" politics / religion. It's just too easy to offend people as you have seen first hand. Sex is fine as long as it isnt too graphic (I think, lol) I'm sure Glen will chime in
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Old 02-02-2006, 05:06 PM
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Re: inappropriate conversation


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Read the rules. They clearly state "NO" politics / religion. It's just too easy to offend people as you have seen first hand. Sex is fine as long as it isnt too graphic (I think, lol) I'm sure Glen will chime in
Thanx Bro, maybe i lay off the booz & wemen for a wile + tone down my posts alittle & hope 2 never offened my bro's on jemsite again, this is the best site in the world so i'll do my best to stay on topic- (sorry to you all )

- Jake.
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Old 02-02-2006, 06:06 PM
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Re: inappropriate conversation


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Thanx Bro, maybe i lay off the booz & wemen for a wile + tone down my posts alittle & hope 2 never offened my bro's on jemsite again, this is the best site in the world so i'll do my best to stay on topic- (sorry to you all )

- Jake.
You're 14.

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It's the harshness in which things are said. They are matter a fact and statements that aren't easily retracted. I think the best thing to do is just follow forum rules and everything will be ok.

Hey nobodies perfect and time to time rules and things get forgotten, but I certainly wouldn't attract attention to it by making a thread on it.
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Old 02-03-2006, 06:48 AM
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Re: inappropriate conversation


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What ever happened to free speach bro?
Conversing on Jemsite isn't covered by free speech. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Glen (capital G) owns this site. He makes the rules, and we follow them, leave or suffer the wrath...

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I think I was very subjective with the messages I did post and I don't think the messages were offensive to the extent that they should be deleted.
It's not necessarily that they were offensive. They simply violated the rules. The reason religion and politics are taboo on many such sites is that they can't be allowed to continue without deteriorating to the point of name throwing, hurt feelings and generally ticked off users.

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NO RELIGION ... must mean NO "YOU NEED GOD" posts as well. It is not fair that the moderators are so quick to ban NON-RELIGIOUS comments, but seem to let the "YOU NEED GOD" comments slide by.
I think the mods are quite consistent. They consistently allow "one-liners" liberty. They don't micromanage the site--thankfully. If they jumped on every little thing, they wouldn't have time for anything else, and I don't think they'd be enjoying the site. I don't think we would either. There's a fine line they follow. They really don't step in until things start to get out of hand.

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Rules are there for a reason.
There here to keep people from getting offended.
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Old 02-03-2006, 07:26 AM
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Re: inappropriate conversation


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There here to keep people from getting offended.
That's exactly what I meant.
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Old 02-03-2006, 08:01 AM
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Re: inappropriate conversation


[quote=bpd111]Conversing on Jemsite isn't covered by free speech. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Glen (capital G) owns this site. He makes the rules, and we follow them, leave or suffer the wrath...

Who's wrath are we talking about here?- yours bro or Gods wrath? i know Glen is God of this site, & to tell me to (leave or suffer) is a direct threat against the rules of this site! (your out of line bro) no offence bro but practice what you preach ok, i beleave if Glen read this post of yours you will find gods wrath forth coming, no need to vent your anger at me bro i'm with in the rules & none of my posts have been locked down or deleated since i joined this site, be fair bro, to say what you said is low & harsh! i can take a hit or 2 but the stuff you said is below the belt line even for anybody on Jemsite ok.
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Old 02-02-2006, 05:25 PM
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Re: inappropriate conversation


It would be nice for jemsite to pm us with a warning before suspending us just to remind us of what we are doing wrong, just a suggestion
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Old 02-02-2006, 06:03 PM
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Re: inappropriate conversation


It's the harshness in which things are said. They are matter a fact and statements that aren't easily retracted. I think the best thing to do is just follow forum rules and everything will be ok.

Hey nobodies perfect and time to time rules and things get forgotten, but I certainly wouldn't attract attention to it by making a thread on it.
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Old 02-02-2006, 07:12 PM
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Re: inappropriate conversation


I am never a big fan of regulation of discussions and their content, but the truth is that most *large* forums with little or lenient moderation are plain unbearable. Smaller, tightly-knit forums can get away with no strict rules, but big forums just turn into a dump...

(gotta love trolls btw)
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Old 02-02-2006, 07:41 PM
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Re: inappropriate conversation


Right... okay. The rules are NO RELIGION... okay I can fully understand that. I wouldn't have posted anything in the first place if that stupid idiot wasn't telling everyone they need god because of the music we listen to.

NO RELIGION ... must mean NO "YOU NEED GOD" posts as well. It is not fair that the moderators are so quick to ban NON-RELIGIOUS comments, but seem to let the "YOU NEED GOD" comments slide by.

How about a bit of consistency!!!!

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Old 02-03-2006, 03:35 AM
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Re: inappropriate conversation


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Right... okay. The rules are NO RELIGION... okay I can fully understand that. I wouldn't have posted anything in the first place if that stupid idiot wasn't telling everyone they need god because of the music we listen to.

NO RELIGION ... must mean NO "YOU NEED GOD" posts as well. It is not fair that the moderators are so quick to ban NON-RELIGIOUS comments, but seem to let the "YOU NEED GOD" comments slide by.

How about a bit of consistency!!!!

Lance
So if the guy that said that about Jesus jumped off a cliff, would you?

Why not take the high road, ignore it, and not put yourself on their level (for better or worse)?

The be all and end all, is that if you don't like it, find somewhere else to post because sooner or later one of the mods will likely get peed off with you and just suspend/ban you.

Rules are there for a reason.
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