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Old 12-03-2007, 09:44 PM
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Re: Getting "those other people" to listen to noodly music.


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Agreed; I would hate for good music to turn into the pile of **** that is Nickelback.
To be honest, Nickelback is not a bad band per se. I have seen them live at the Calgary Stampede before we had hours of Nickleback per day shoved down our throats by radio and video shows, thus making them boring. They are a very tight band with a decent stage show. Not shredders, but they really do hold their own.

Before they became mainstream they were actually contemplating going the heavy metal route. But Ryan Peake (the guitarist) convinced them to stay more mainstream. They played their current style of music BEFORE it became the generic formula that it is. They never followed a trend. 10 years ago, they had a fresh, unique sound.

The one fault I believe they do have is not changing their music. They are still writing the same style of music with the same 'sound'. My guess is they are going after commercial success by doing this. They are succeeding in this because, no matter how many people despise Nickleback, they still sell millions of records, sell out huge arena shows, and always have songs on top 40 charts.

If you want to blame someone/something for the Nickleback phenomenon, blame the marketers and record companies that tell the weak-minded masses of what they should like and listen to. If the masses thought critically instead of listening to the marketers and record companies, you would see a hugely different landscape in the world of music.

Generally, Jemsiters are these critical thinkers that don't listen to record companies. How many of our guitar gods are signed to major labels and have major promotional power and clout with radio progamming directors.

Guitarists (or any other musicians for that matter) tend to look deeper into the music and analyze it much more intently as opposed to just passively observing a catchy hook (food for the masses). That is why we don't like Nickleback. They haven't given us something new to listen to. They are purely victims of their own success.

I don't know if my babbling makes any sense to you, but the logic works in my mind.
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Old 12-04-2007, 05:14 AM
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Re: Getting "those other people" to listen to noodly music.


No babbling, that's a very good (and true) post
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Old 12-04-2007, 05:34 AM
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Re: Getting "those other people" to listen to noodly music.


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Generally, Jemsiters are these critical thinkers that don't listen to record companies. How many of our guitar gods are signed to major labels and have major promotional power and clout with radio progamming directors.

Guitarists (or any other musicians for that matter) tend to look deeper into the music and analyze it much more intently as opposed to just passively observing a catchy hook (food for the masses). That is why we don't like Nickleback. They haven't given us something new to listen to. They are purely victims of their own success.
Thats an excellent point, we as musicians analyse music deeper than those who don't play an instrument, we can appreciate the Technical side of the more Instrumental songs.

Just remember a bunch of people can't change the whole worlds perspective, and expect them to all like the same music.

Were all individuals and we all like different things , so if most people aren't into shred what does it matter, it doesn't affect you does it?, they don't say bad things about shred they just don't know it exists.

Music is Music, if it has a good beat im happy
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Old 12-04-2007, 06:02 AM
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Re: Getting "those other people" to listen to noodly music.


I'm more inclined to believe that ANY type of music which is majorly publicised and overplayed will get boring...and there will inevitably be a back lash against it.

I see music like food (eh, it's my italian roots, whatacanisay?)

You get the MacDonalds of music: eg Spice Girls, Westlife. They taste great (to many) for about a minute and then you realise you've actually eaten sht.

On the opposite side, if you eat your favourite home-cooked healthy dish everyday, 3 times a day, you will eventually go off it.

There are some incredibly talented producers, engineers, artists and mixers out there getting commmercial success (which they thoroughly deserve).

Musical nuances and brilliant phrasing is found often in "commercial" music.
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Old 12-04-2007, 06:13 AM
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Re: Getting "those other people" to listen to noodly music.


That's it........i'm not going in MacDonalds today now
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Old 12-04-2007, 06:15 AM
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Re: Getting "those other people" to listen to noodly music.


By the way.......if your food starts singing to you, you've probably eaten something past it's sell-by date
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Old 12-04-2007, 06:33 AM
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By the way.......if your food starts singing to you, you've probably eaten something past it's sell-by date
cheeky mutt! Oh, can you pick me up a quarter pounder on your way here, then?
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Old 12-04-2007, 09:53 AM
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I'm more inclined to believe that ANY type of music which is majorly publicised and overplayed will get boring...and there will inevitably be a back lash against it.

I see music like food (eh, it's my italian roots, whatacanisay?)

You get the MacDonalds of music: eg Spice Girls, Westlife. They taste great (to many) for about a minute and then you realise you've actually eaten sht.

On the opposite side, if you eat your favourite home-cooked healthy dish everyday, 3 times a day, you will eventually go off it.

There are some incredibly talented producers, engineers, artists and mixers out there getting commmercial success (which they thoroughly deserve).

Musical nuances and brilliant phrasing is found often in "commercial" music.


Well said!
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Old 12-04-2007, 02:17 PM
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cheeky mutt! Oh, can you pick me up a quarter pounder on your way here, then?
Ya didn't reply quick enough I'd left

Good to see ya again though....even if i didn't leave with a guitar this time
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Old 12-04-2007, 03:57 PM
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Re: Getting "those other people" to listen to noodly music.


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That's it........i'm not going in MacDonalds today now
If you DO go there, please order me 'one Steinberger, no mayonaise,' please.
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