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rickcard71 · #1 02-07-2006, 11:47 PM

Does anyone know how to detect and especially remove Hi-Jacking software? I think it is also known as Camoflauge or Key logging software! Please help, please!

bpd111 · #2 02-08-2006, 01:05 AM

I don't know if spybot or ad-aware will help. They're more for spyware. But you can download those for free. Are you using virus software and a firewall for broadband? If not, AVG is free from grisoft.com. Again, I'm not sure how much help it would be for such a pest.

Try going to this site, see if it doesn't help. (Note: I've never used it, but it came from PCWorld.com -- a reputable mag.)

http://www.pctools.com/spyware-docto...OVMTC=standard

Blast! I didn't see this:

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Download the latest version of Spyware Doctor and scan your PC for thousands of spyware, adware, and malware threats. Please note the trial version is limited to scan only.

bpd111 · #3 02-08-2006, 01:09 AM

Here:

Adaware - http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/
Spybot - http://www.safer-networking.org/

Both are reputable.

JESTER700 · #4 02-08-2006, 09:01 AM

Also free are Microsoft AntiSpyware, and SpyCatcher Express, though that second one is new and still sort of "under review". MS AS has a real time scanner built in.

Preventatively, keep spybot up-to-date and the "Immunize" function ON. DL Spywareblaster and keep it up to date. Also consider using Spyware Guard, IESpyAd, and the MVPS HOST file. All of these are free and don't really drain resources, so as a layered approach, I often use them ALL (especially for clients with teenagers!)

But these don't catch the trickier hijackers. Some of those entail DLing HIJACK THIS and seeing what processes are running and killing them. But you can kill your system this way, so post a Hijack This log in an appropriate forum (castleCops, Spyware arrior, etc) and let an expert walk you through it. And be patient. And stop surfing porn.

buddroyce · #5 02-08-2006, 07:21 PM

It really depends on the keylogger. Ad Aware and the like ONLY remove spyway/malware. Keyloggers are manually installed like a regular problem. Mind you there are two types of keyloggers, physical and software.

Physical keyloggers they look like little dongles that attaches to your keyboard. If you find your keyboard attached to something small before going into your machine, remove it. It's one of the easiest to find, but also one of the hardest to pick out as your system will not act wierd and most people overlook physically checking your keyboard.

As for software keyloggers, they REALLY vary in thier forms of stealth. Some are really just bits of software that run in the background that you can see in your task manager others can get as complex as a kernel level(core level) rootkit which is REALLY difficult to track. Mind you, very small # of people actually are able to get a rootkit going and putting a rootkit on an NT Kernel is easier said than done.

Realistically, software keyloggers are bypassed, activated and turned off using specific key combinations(usually Alt/CTRL + some key combo). If you're really scared, download 'hijack this' and post it on one of the proper forums as mentioned by Jester700.

Why exactly are you so worried about a keylogger?

jemuniverse777 · #6 02-08-2006, 09:28 PM

http://housecall.trendmicro.com/

Try this link, takes care of just about everything.

JESTER700 · #7 02-09-2006, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jemuniverse777

http://housecall.trendmicro.com/

Try this link, takes care of just about everything.

It's the "just about" part that gets you in trouble.

It's missed stuff for me before, though it's not a bad tool.

red5 · #8 02-09-2006, 01:03 PM

I've been finding a lot lately that Spy Sweeper will remove stuff that spybot and ad-aware miss (along with many virus scanners - Norton & Mcaffee miss near everything, and even good ones like Bitdefender and AVG will miss a lot).
I never used it because I see ads in sketchy places, but after some net research trying to remove a virus from winlogon, I tried it and it removed it and saved me at least a couple hours of work right there.

SOMEWHERE on their homepage you can get a 14 day trial version instead of a scan only trial version. I just don't recall where. If I find it, I will let you know!

JESTER700 · #9 02-09-2006, 03:37 PM

Spybot & adaware aren't the best - they're just free and safe and have long histories. MS AntiSpyware, Spy Sweeper, and CounterSpy all tend to test better (MS & CounterSpy both started with Giant's AS engine, though their paths have diverged a bit). AV programs aren't really well targeted at this, so AVG and Avast catch some stuff, but not all (Norton missed a LOT back when I used it). Anti trojan progs can add another round of detection - "a squared" and ewido are worth the free download.

MicJustMic · #10 02-09-2006, 07:47 PM

I'm constantly installing/re-installing/setting up operating systems for people, so I make it a regular point to test all the major players in the AV and Anit-Mal-ware business and at this point my personal reccomendations are;

AVG-Free for free AV, Bitdefender Pro for Pay for play. In test both catch 100% of common and not-so common viruses, beating out even the top two AV programs in most cases.

For Mal-ware, at the moment, Microsoft's tends to catch the most, and it's still free. Pay for play I'd have to go with Spysweeper or Computer Associate's spyware scanner.

Microsoft One Care is in Beta, and free at the moment. It covers virus, spyware, and has a two way firewall (basically an add-on for the current firewall built into Windows, but it works) and it's getting good reviews and scores well on tests. It'll become pay-for-play once it out of beta though.

The only way I know for sure to avoid these problems at the moment is to switch operating systems. I've been using Linux (Ubuntu, specifically) for quite some time now and I'm very happy with it. I have the iptables (firewall) set up just to avoid port-scans slowing down my dial-up, but virus and spyware are non-existant worries on my machine now.

I have to dual-boot to play games, but since I don't even have an Internet connection set up for my Windows XP partition there are simply no worries at all.

Now I don't suggest anyone that doesn't have the patience to learn a new, more difficult operating system try this, but if you have any computer skills (NOT just Windows skills) I'd suggest you give it a shot for nits and shiggles, if nothing else. :-) At least download a Linux Live CD to see what it's all about.

Keep in mind, I've been in computers for the past 23 years and have finally gone back to school for my degree in electronics and computer engineering, (graduating in March, YAY!) so dealing with cryptic command line utilities isn't a big deal for me, people that have used nothing but Windows may not like Linux, so try it at your own risk. :-)

rickcard71 · #11 02-11-2006, 04:44 AM

Why exactly are you so worried about a keylogger?

Because when I go to my ISPs web page to check my mail from their site, in the forwarding e-mail area, where I can choose to have my mail forwarded, someone elses e-mail is in there that I can't remove. It is not being forwarded now, but his address remains in there when I try to delete it.

Thanks for your help everyone!

jaken777 · #12 02-11-2006, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by rickcard71

Does anyone know how to detect and especially remove Hi-Jacking software? I think it is also known as Camoflauge or Key logging software! Please help, please!

hey bro you sound like your in some trouble there with your PC. sounds like the Hi-jacking ass holes are at it again! never mind bro i can help you there is a good hi-jack tool for free it's called (Hijack this) it should fix your PC fast, you can down load it from http://www.softpedia.com, just type in (Hijack this) & you will see more software to stop hijackers, ( hijack this) is a good one -note there is lots of free software you can download form this site to all the bro's on jemsite have a good look at it anyway & see what you need.

let us know how you go with it & goodluck bro i hope it solve's your problem for you & many bro's.

Cheers-Jake.

rickcard71 · #13 02-16-2006, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jaken777

hey bro you sound like your in some trouble there with your PC. sounds like the Hi-jacking ass holes are at it again! never mind bro i can help you there is a good hi-jack tool for free it's called (Hijack this) it should fix your PC fast, you can down load it from http://www.softpedia.com, just type in (Hijack this) & you will see more software to stop hijackers, ( hijack this) is a good one -note there is lots of free software you can download form this site to all the bro's on jemsite have a good look at it anyway & see what you need.

let us know how you go with it & goodluck bro i hope it solve's your problem for you & many bro's.

Cheers-Jake.

Thank you very much, I'm gonna try it this weekend.

red5 · #14 02-16-2006, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JESTER700

Spybot & adaware aren't the best - they're just free and safe and have long histories. MS AntiSpyware, Spy Sweeper, and CounterSpy all tend to test better (MS & CounterSpy both started with Giant's AS engine, though their paths have diverged a bit). AV programs aren't really well targeted at this, so AVG and Avast catch some stuff, but not all (Norton missed a LOT back when I used it). Anti trojan progs can add another round of detection - "a squared" and ewido are worth the free download.

I have been very unimpressed with MS AntiSpyware, much more so than with either Spybot or Ad-aware. Either of those alone seems to do a lot better job, and both together are usually pretty good.

Spysweeper seems to target more intrusive harmful stuff like trojans as opposed to spyware but it is targeted towards both and seems to do a good job. I'd suggest that with AVG or even better, Bitdefender.

red5 · #15 02-16-2006, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MicJustMic

AVG-Free for free AV, Bitdefender Pro for Pay for play. In test both catch 100% of common and not-so common viruses, beating out even the top two AV programs in most cases.

Lol far from 100% bro! If we only had an AV that good... the original AVG or AVX or whatever it was back in the day before Bitdefender bought them out probably did recognise fairly close for its day, but in this day in age, nothing is close to 100%. AVG is pretty good, and Bitdefender is the best I've seen in years for catching viruses (but not data mining type spyware which neither look for), but far from 100% still.

Hijack this is the best tool for advanced users !