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#1 ·
Obama - Officially next president of the USA.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/05/uselections20083

As of right now, 338 electoral votes to 155. Barack needed 270 to win.

I'm UK, but I'm very glad of the result...if not because of the landmark, but just because it means Palin isn't VP. The womans a menace to all intelligent thought IMO.

What are your views on the result?
 
#90 ·
Wait, I don't see where anybody that is saying they're living in fear, so how can it be embarassing to read?
just talking about it imho is being fearful and it is really inappropriate in the thread. speculate about some possible, random violence. i mean a small bomb went off in Atlanta during the olympics in what '96.

i'm not singling you out as you're not even in the USA and can't experience or get a feel for it... glen
 
#95 ·
No, but to insinuate that because I'm not American that I can't get experience or get a feel for terrorism is a pretty ignorant remark to make. And again, I think there is a world of difference between living in fear and being ignorant to the possibilty of an attack.
please don't put words in my mouth.

you can't get a FEEL for what it is like here in the USA. where i'm saying there is no fear whatsoever. anything is possible, even probable but there is no "fear" as it's being handled the best it can given the limits of reality.

you were posting about fear of an attack as a warning to obama which obviously would be in America. if an actual terrorist organization attacks France or Spain or Russia or England that doesn't send Obama (or any american president) any message ;) ...glen
 
#94 ·
I'm not the admin, but I will say this:

You can in no way prove that "enemies" of ours test new presidents shortly after an election, even with examples of events that seem to be just that. You can in NO way prove that. So I would like to see this thread continue to be about Barack Obama, instead of terrorists... because, granted that these terrorist regimes are and ever actually were a threat, us taking precaution because of their existence just supports their reason for existing. It's the whole point to be afraid.
 
#98 ·
Of course you can't "prove" it. It's just that I personally think that an attack would be more likely here in the next year. If something were to happen (God forbid), I have all the confidence in the world that Barack's administration will aptly handle it.

Who all do you guys think will be part of his cabinet?
 
#97 ·
I believe time will show yesterday's election to be one of the most important events in US history. The amount of optimism i have seen in the last 24 hours is inspiring.
Our new president faces some tough problems- here's hoping he can make at least some progress in cleaning up the mess that is being left to him.
 
#100 ·
I believe time will show yesterday's election to be one of the most important events in US history. The amount of optimism i have seen in the last 24 hours is inspiring.
Our new president faces some tough problems- here's hoping he can make at least some progress in cleaning up the mess that is being left to him.
good point... lets get back on track and drop the terrorist nonsense... glen
 
#102 ·
I'm thrilled that Barack won. My girl and I were really pushing for him. I'm also extremely proud we have out first African American President Elect.

But....

IMO, the honeymoon period ended at 7 AM this morning.
We have serious problems and we need to get to work repairing the damage....all of us... together!

There won't even be an inkling of light at the end of the tunnel well into next year economically.
We still have two wars going. Osama is still out there. Seven years later, it's time to catch his a$$!
Lots of stuff to fix! Time to get fixing it!

God Bless America!
 
#110 · (Edited)
Finally a president that I can truly respect and admire.
Respect and admire for what? He hasn't done anything yet. It's all meaningless political rhetoric until he actually does something as President.

I judge a man by his actions, not his words and until I see action I will neither deify him nor will I demonize him.

ETA - All I'm saying is don't be naive. He's a politician and a good orator but don't buy into the hype. He has the potential to do really great things for this country and he has the potential to do really bad things to this country.
 
#106 ·
R.I.P. USA.
July 1776-Nov 2008
It was a good country while it lasted.

Ladies and gentleman, welcome to the new U.S.S.of A. The United Socialist States of Amerika.

Kiss your liberty, your freedoms, and your guns goodbye.


The good thing is, my kids got to see a relatively free country for a little while. Soon and the 1st and 2nd Amendment is trashed, maybe they'll remember what it was like back the the day when you could speak freely. Own and carry a handgun.

Side note, Btw: In Pennsylvania, you currently need no permit to carry a hand gun openly. You can wear a gun openly in a holster on your belt and walk down the street, into stores, malls and restaurants etc. No permit or license required. I'm sure this wont last. But, if your jacket accidentally covers the gun, and you don't have a concealed permit, you are then in trouble.

Good thing we have guitars to distract us. And cash jobs to avoid some of those pesky taxes.
 
#108 ·
R.I.P. USA.
July 1776-Nov 2008
It was a good country while it lasted.

Ladies and gentleman, welcome to the new U.S.S.of A. The United Socialist States of Amerika.

Kiss your liberty, your freedoms, and your guns goodbye.

The good thing is, my kids got to see a relatively free country for a little while. Soon and the 1st and 2nd Amendment is trashed, maybe they'll remember what it was like back the the day when you could speak freely. Own and carry a handgun.

Side note, Btw: In Pennsylvania, you currently need no permit to carry a hand gun openly. You can wear a gun openly in a holster on your belt and walk down the street, into stores, malls and restaurants etc. No permit or license required. I'm sure this wont last. But, if your jacket accidentally covers the gun, and you don't have a concealed permit, you are then in trouble.

Good thing we have guitars to distract us. And cash jobs to avoid some of those pesky taxes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_PATRIOT_Act

Your point made, methinks?
 
#107 ·
Hahaha, are you serious, dude?

Ooooh no, we can't have any of this.... assuming that what you're saying is true, I might as well leave the country. If I can't have my gun on me at all times, I might as well just stop breathing and die a much more painless death than is surely in store for all of us.

In fact, Barack Obama will probably take every cent away from every one of us and then decide what to do with it.



...in all seriousness though...

Yes, good bye to the America that we've known to be in critical condition, with its dirty secretive agendas and scams, and hello to a brand new America, where we can all learn to LIVE life instead of simply pay for it.
 
#112 ·
I for one am very much looking forward AND apprehensive about what will become of this. I think the stronger person was picked, and he has the right mindset about him.

Things are truly in a mess, and it is terrible that things like the economic crisis, and wars overseas with budgets far too great need cleaning up.

I really hate that what happens in the United States affects the rest of the world just as badly, and I believe that no country should have that power or persuasion (if that's the right words to use). I have come to accept that it is the way things are though.

I hope this new Government that will form at the start of next year will be able to make the right changes to the United States to clean up things, and get the country back on track.

It is always a concern when one party has an overwhelming majority in all houses, so I hope that they remain central enough to do what is right for all.

Good luck for all of us I say.
 
#118 ·
I judge a man by his actions, not his words and until I see action I will neither deify him nor will I demonize him.

ETA - All I'm saying is don't be naive. He's a politician and a good orator but don't buy into the hype. He has the potential to do really great things for this country and he has the potential to do really bad things to this country.[/QUOTE]

+1, he's a first term senator and hasnt stepped a foot in the oval office yet and everyone thinks hes god recreated. Dont get me wrong I hope with all my heart he changes the world, but he hasnt done anything yet. Remember, every president starts with a clean slate when they first start, its the corruption thats all around that he needs to defeat, in my opinion thats easier said than done. Lets wait and see what he does and judge on those merits before we praise him as the best that ever was. (atleast thats what Ive been hearing all around the chicago area)
 
#119 ·
I find it incredulous when citizens of the opposing party criticize the President and blame him and only him for every law or budget decision that turns out to be a bad idea. The Commander in Chief becomes the fall guy, yet he never actually creates the legislation. Sure he can draft a bill and suggest it to Congress, but there are 535 members of Congress that must enact and then vote on the bill before the President can sign it into law. 10 years ago, the country was ready to hang Clinton. Today it's Bush. In a sad sort of way, I'm almost glad McCain wasn't elected. He's done too much good for the country already. To have his name and reputation dragged through the political mud by the media and the opposing party, just for the sake of being president, would be an injustice to a man who has served as long and as honorably as he has.

The U.S. Government was originally created to be by the people, of the people and for the people. What we have today is an ever increasing bureauacracy whose sole ambition is to rule the people, regulate the people and tax the people.

Name one thing that you can buy, one job you can perform or one thing you do in everyday life (besides worship, prayer or religion) that isn't someway regulated by a local, state or federal government agency. I'll buy the first person to find an unregulated item / activity a steak and a beer (both regulated by the USDA, the U.S. Treasury and local liquor laws of course).

*rant off*

God Bless America.

=^)

~Scott
 
#120 ·
Name one thing that you can buy, one job you can perform or one thing you do in everyday life (besides worship, prayer or religion) that isn't someway regulated by a local, state or federal government agency. I'll buy the first person to find an unregulated item / activity a steak and a beer (both regulated by the USDA, the U.S. Treasury and local liquor laws of course).

~Scott
Hookers.

I'll take mine still breathing.
 
#128 ·
According to Merriam Webster:

Regulate -

Main Entry: reg·u·late
Pronunciation: \ˈre-gyə-ˌlāt also ˈrā-\
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): reg·u·lat·ed; reg·u·lat·ing
Etymology: Middle English, from Late Latin regulatus, past participle of regulare, from Latin regula rule
Date: 15th century
1 a: to govern or direct according to rule b (1): to bring under the control of law or constituted authority (2): to make regulations for or concerning <regulate the industries of a country>
2: to bring order, method, or uniformity to <regulate one's habits>
3: to fix or adjust the time, amount, degree, or rate of <regulate the pressure of a tire>
- reg·u·la·tive \-ˌlā-tiv\ adjective
- reg·u·la·to·ry \-lə-ˌtȯr-ē\ adjective

Regulation -

Main Entry: reg·u·la·tion
Pronunciation: \ˌre-gyə-ˈlā-shən, ˌre-gə- also ˌrā-\
Function: noun
Date: 1665
1: the act of regulating : the state of being regulated
2 a: an authoritative rule dealing with details or procedure <safety regulations> b: a rule or order issued by an executive authority or regulatory agency of a government and having the force of law
3 a: the process of redistributing material (as in an embryo) to restore a damaged or lost part independent of new tissue growth b: the mechanism by which an early embryo maintains normal development

~Scott

I'm going to bed!
 
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