So you think Fedex is better than UPS? ;) - Page 2

rickcard71 · #16 12-06-2006, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by OLIE_ROCKS_THE_80'S

The fact that is missing a knob and stuff is a dead giveaway that someone messed with it and the damage was not really from the mishandling of the package!!!

Perhaps some frustrated Fedex guy that always wanted a JS1200 in candy red but was never able to afford it took it out on the poor guitar...

A FedEx guy CAN afford one! They make well over $20/hour with ample OT.

OLIE_ROCKS_THE_80'S · #17 12-06-2006, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by rickcard71

A FedEx guy CAN afford one! They make well over $20/hour with ample OT.

Not everyone makes $20 bucks an hour at Fedex! besides the damage to the guitar is not consistent with the damage to the box or the case!!!!

Rich · #18 12-06-2006, 11:47 PM

The conspiracy theories begin

It was never opened, there wasn't a "mark" on the guitar. This is what a drop of 20-30 feet flat onto it's back [probable] or face will do. It litteraly just exploded. Hell it blew a neck screw right out of the neck! The knob is in the corner of the case where there was also about 20 little chips that all fell out when I opened it, the switch tip is split in 2 and half is next to the knob, the other half under the butt end of the body. When I turned it over the other knob complete with shaft fell out. Where the case is blown out around the foot is the only damage to the case, and it's blown out, not in.

Pure shock, and lots of it

Note where the trem wasn't just blown off the studs but sheared off the side of the trem cavity. The piece between the neck and neck pickup that's been nearly broken out when the neck jammed into it. Also note the 4" neck joint "finish" crack, which should make it clear exactly what these are

OLIE_ROCKS_THE_80'S · #19 12-06-2006, 11:57 PM

Boy I must say that's a heck of a lot of damage just from a drop?!?

but I guess you know better big boy!!!

Eddie_UV777 · #20 12-07-2006, 12:06 AM

but can I have it?

jemplayer55 · #21 12-07-2006, 12:06 AM

I guess some 300 lb. person could have fallen on the box....

But where's the damage to the box??? The loose knob, damage to only one corner of the case, screw half removed or stripped out, are you sure your client wasn't trying to get a new guitar out of the deal? The box was taped up when you received it? The whole deal looks fishy. Maybe a 15' -20' drop from a cargo hold might do it!?

Nothing like a good locking flight case but that's no guarantee either against a truck or forklift.

Rich · #22 12-07-2006, 12:10 AM

Let me repeat, there isn't a "mark" on the guitar anywhere. You can't intentionally break a neck and not leave some trace of how you did it. There are no dings, chips, or bruises, this is an explosion. Which is why it reminded me of the commercial

You have to remember that at these depots they have conveyor belts running 3 stories high and when they get jammed up it rains big boxes.

I think Fedex might want it after they pay $1500 for it

rickcard71 · #23 12-07-2006, 12:13 AM

I was thinking about the drivers. I guess the moral to this story is not to send it in a marked box with the company name, just in case someone has a vendetta against a particular company. But, that doesn't mean it can't still be dropped hard. Man, since it was never opened, does this tell us that these aren't strong guitars?! I bet a neck-thru wouldn't have that kind of damage. Would it? I guess it is too hard to predict all the different variables. One would think that the case would have dampened most of the impact, apparently not. That is scary. Rich was it insured I hope. Even if it wasn't, the carrier should be responisble, they shouldn't be throwing around items that hard.

ScottB · #24 12-07-2006, 12:17 AM

Looks like it got jammed in a conveyer and then flew across the warehouse during the un-jamming.

Are you sure this was shipped via FedEx? It looks more like he fired it from a cannon from his place to yours!

rickcard71 · #25 12-07-2006, 12:20 AM

Are you sure this was shipped via FedEx? It looks more like he fired it from a cannon from his place to yours!

Oh man, I can't stop LMAO!!!! Ooooo, funny.

jemplayer55 · #26 12-07-2006, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich

Let me repeat, there isn't a "mark" on the guitar anywhere. You can't intentionally break a neck and not leave some trace of how you did it. There are no dings, chips, or bruises, this is an explosion. Which is why it reminded me of the commercial

You have to remember that at these depots they have conveyor belts running 3 stories high and when they get jammed up it rains big boxes.

I think Fedex might want it after they pay $1500 for it

I can hear the conversation..... worker to boss: Uhhhh boss, Uh.... that package fell three stories off the conveyor, but the box still looks ok. Boss to worker: Just deliver it and get a signature.....

David McCarroll · #27 12-07-2006, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by rickcard71

I was thinking about the drivers. I guess the moral to this story is not to send it in a marked box with the company name, just in case someone has a vendetta against a particular company. But, that doesn't mean it can't still be dropped hard. Man, since it was never opened, does this tell us that these aren't strong guitars?! I bet a neck-thru wouldn't have that kind of damage. Would it? I guess it is too hard to predict all the different variables. One would think that the case would have dampened most of the impact, apparently not. That is scary. Rich was it insured I hope. Even if it wasn't, the carrier should be responisble, they shouldn't be throwing around items that hard.

No, I think you might find a neck - thru guitar would suffer even more damage than this - the joint between the neck and body would have acted, ever so slightly as a shock absorber (not that it did much good in this case!) - with a through neck you'd get even more force transferred through the guitar - you'd end up with a case full of matchstick sized splinters

ZOMB13 · #28 12-07-2006, 12:22 AM

Rich
whats going to happen now??
as the guitar is not repairable, well, it could be, but it would take a very patient luither, :P

Rich · #29 12-07-2006, 12:30 AM

Here comes a small moral to the story.

He sent it using a shipping drop off [like UPS store etc, but this was more mom and pop]. The store becomes the shipper of record, and some store is never going to fight for a claim the way you'll fight for yourself. I got very bad vibes from the store manager when she called, like this was nothing more than an annoyance to her day.

I got the owner to keep pestering Fedex claims to get him to be able to deal with them directly, even though the store will receive any claim check. And I got him to have them cancel the pickup to send to inspection in lie of having an inspector physically come out. This goes to inspection and they'll deny it, a personal inspection and I can explain exactly how this happened making it a little tougher for them to just deny it.

SonataGuitarist · #30 12-07-2006, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich

Here comes a small moral to the story.

He sent it using a shipping drop off [like UPS store etc, but this was more mom and pop]. The store becomes the shipper of record, and some store is never going to fight for a claim the way you'll fight for yourself. I got very bad vibes from the store manager when she called, like this was nothing more than an annoyance to her day.

I got the owner to keep pestering Fedex claims to get him to be able to deal with them directly, even though the store will receive any claim check. And I got him to have them cancel the pickup to send to inspection in lie of having an inspector physically come out. This goes to inspection and they'll deny it, a personal inspection and I can explain exactly how this happened making it a little tougher for them to just deny it.

I did the same thing after UPS put some NJFCs on my S470 (and sent the headstock through the case molding). They scheduled a pickup inspection, but I thought twice about it. The phone conversations left me unconfident regarding their guitar knowledge. I also wasnt eager to put the guitar back on a ups truck.

The people that came out were hopelessly unfamiliar with guitars, and in the end, despite plain evidence, an appeal was needed, as well as many months, and lots of paperwork.
No matter the company, anythings possible. Good thing for insurance.

Good luck!