UFO / abductions / conspiracy theory

[rob777vdy]

Originally Posted by jim777

Are you confusing galaxies with something else? Our galaxy has approximately 300 billion stars in it. Perhaps you read something about the popular multiverse theories?

no its true jim,im not sure weather i should have used the word galaxy,but they deffo said theres another universe like the 1 we know.did you not hear about it,it was on the news aswell.

[jim777]

Originally Posted by rob777vdy

no its true jim,im not sure weather i should have used the word galaxy,but they deffo said theres another universe like the 1 we know.did you not hear about it,it was on the news aswell.

Another Universe would mean multiple universes, which was what I meant by multiverse theory. I understand a bit of it, and the various types, but I'm not certain it is fact, rather than theory. I think that a lot of what people take for granted as true is simply incorrect.

[IbanezDaemon]

I'm into astronomy and quantum physics so this is an interesting topic. It's important to understand the distances involved in traversing the Universe. You would have to travel at approx 186,000 miles per second for 4.37 years (light years) just to reach the nearest star (Sun not included) to us. The distances are so vast that aliens would have to have invented some type of time or worm hole travel to get here. For me it's not a question of 'Do Aliens Exist'? IMO the odds are so heavily stacked for it that they must exist. For us to think that we are the only civilisation in a vast universe is extremely self centred. There are more stars in the sky than there are grains of sand on every beach on earth, and a lot of those stars are capable of supporting planetary systems.

I have never seen anything like a UFO but I sure envy you guys that have. There's a theory that those UFO's are just human beings who have invented time travel in the future and come back to visit earth in our time.

[Andy43]

I think that maybe we could find some answers and/or improve our technology if our government was more focused on our space program than killing each other. Space exploration just doesn't seem to be a high priority to our government.

[Petie]

Originally Posted by bammbamm

I recently saw something that I couldn't identify, it started as a bright glow high in the sky, as it moved toward the horizon it dimmed, but it was not flashing, it was an ever constant glow just at dusk. it eventually faded, but it had the speed of a lower flying plane, but seemingly much higher, and in all probability faster.

That could have been the International Space Station.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...tion#Sightings

[espenguin]

Great topic! i totally believe, i have seen it first hand.
I've been visited since i was a baby , my earliest memory is being surrounded by the "little doctors" it's been such a part of my life ,i no longer fear them.
I have had numerous medical tests and seen countless psych people so there is nothing wrong with me emotionally or physically.
I am currently working with an native american shaman to find answers, mostly why me? i was originally a catholic but try to talk to a priest or pastor about UFOS and aliens,they just arent open to the idea of otherworldy beings, and i do not think the aliens are satanic demons.
Its very rare i talk about this by the way.

i'm really looking forward to the movie "the fourth kind" if you havent seen the trailer yet check it out

--Rudolf

[bammbamm]

Originally Posted by Petie

That could have been the International Space Station.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...tion#Sightings

I was reading the info, and it was traveling the correct direction and lasted the appropriate duration. The only thing was the glow, it almost looked like a pulsing flare, which I suppose could have been the sun's reflection off the solar panels?

[socratys]

I don't know about UFO's/Alien sightings..

but some years ago on british TV a program called 'Beadles About', they tried to hoax an old lady by saying aliens had landing in her garden. Its probably one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

Check it out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnxMd5e-lM0

lol...

[UV-7-BK]

Originally Posted by Shredragrammaton

That must have been most gruesome for you man . I am reading a lot of material atm regarding certain "species" of aliens being the same "demons and angels" of the historical religions , sumerian babylonian etc. It is amazing howmuch the modern alien stereotype is mentioned in the ancient world.

My experience was quite recent;

I went to bed with the cat , same as everynight. Fell asleep quite easy.
Went into a vivid dream where i met this teenaged girl and her little bro who was crying and very upset "i cant go into my room!" so i said, lets take a look. We went up and i went into the room...

BANG! i instantly awake with a horrible horrible feeling in the room , not your typical nightmare feeling , much more primordial.

So i go back to sleep. Straight back into the dream , this time going up the stairs with churchfolk who are reading Psalms and blessing the house. They go into the front bedroom, and i linger behind kindof sussing out the room.

BANG! i violently wake again with an even worse feeling , asif ive been told GET THE **** OUT OF HERE , YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS HERE. by this time my head was fryed, i didnt like it atall. The cat was also pacing the room and scratching at the door to get out of the house. I let her out and went back to bed.

So i fall asleep for the third time. Back in the bedroom on my own. I lay down on her bed and look at the ceiling.

BANG! i "awake" in this semi conscious mode , completely frozen and paralyzed with a massssive weight on my chest , invisible presence. At the same time i could feel a huge muscular arm punch down through my neck and face , through the bed and through the floor. It was a bizarre feeling , and i was in no doubt it was a show of strength ,kindof " witness my power , i can defy your laws of physics and occupy the same atomic psace as you do" it was HORRIBLE , then it started to fade and i heard by my ear thee most unusual voice , like a lot of voices multilayered at once , but -speaking on the inbreath- instead of the ehxhale as humans do "I can see and speak with you"

I awoke totally horrified, 5am-ish , and didnt go back to bed. Took me 2 days to get back to a normal level , read some psalms in each room and asked for it not to come back.

It hasnt. But even more horrifying is when i researched it, it is a proper phenomenon called Sleep Paralysis / Old Hag Syndrome. Enjoy some of these ghastly pics:

sounds pretty full on dude!! glad its left you alone. Like Mr Killer said, the human mind is a powerful thing is so true.....if you convince yourself enough, you can manifest whatever you want!! Still, im at a loss with whats hapened to you....but i can relate to the 'speaking in tongues voices' you heard.....my experience with that was like hearing 20 or so voices all trying to say something different to me and a weird ancient language...can be bloody scarey if you let it get to ya.....hard not to though!! ....these voices stopped as soon as my visitors left. Maybe i shouldve listened a little closer and tried to communicate back but as a young teen, this was more than my mind was willing to cope with.
one of my best ufo experiences was probably 10 years ago..and i remember it like it was 5 min ago. After a full night of working on my beloved muscle car....i left my mates place where we worked on it, which was about 15 min from home and basically a country road with no street lights and very little traffic!! I saw 2 lights in the sky, they were kinda playing with each other, chaseing and playing is what it looked like they were doing...they wouldve been at least 20km away in the distance....suddenly they changed direction and wanting to follow them i did a u-turn, but managed to get the front of my car stuck in the ditch thats on both sides of the road. Knowing i wasnt going anywhere soon, i got out of the car and watched the light show! seemed like it was maybe 10min before another cars headlights distracted me from what i was looking at! it was a young man and his 6yr old daughter, hepulled up and asked if i was ok.....i simply asked him to 'look in the sky and tell me what you see'...making sure i wasnt imagining it. he stopped with his jaw wide open which kinda made me feel better about my own sanity!! he got his daughter out and held her in his arms and the 3 of us just sat there and watch for maybe 25mins! The little girl asked 'what are the lights daddy?'....we just looked at each other not knowing how to answer the curious mind of a 6yr old!! Another car came over the hill with high beam headlights that caught our attention, we looked back in the sky and they just simply vanished. That car also stopped and claimed he never saw anything. The guy got out and with a bit of man power we got my car out of the ditch and i was good to go. nothing else was said between the guy and his daughter and i!!! i drove home and it was like the light show i saw was just for me and the guy with his daughter!!! i was quite happy!!!

heres another story.....its from my father in law who served 20years in the australian navy.......hes got some great tales of mischief too!! he was onboard a train that was travelling through the middle of the outback desert in australia when suddenly the train came to a grinding halt in the middle of nowhere.....the train conducter asked everyone to stay inside but hardly anyone listened apparently.......what people saw must have been amazing........he swears black and blue that there was a ufo hovering about a foot above the tracks bout 100metres away and it stayed there for 10 min!!!! ill try and get more info from him about it!!!

[UV-7-BK]

geez that was a bloody long post!!! sorry guys

[THE UNIVERSAL ONE]

Wow! You guys have had some experiences. I wouldn't wanna go through all that for my "confirmation of existance". I'd be bouncin' my head off a wall for a couple years at least.

[Magical Muffin]

Originally Posted by Mr. Killer

Yeah the same happens to me very often since I was 12 or 13. It feels as if you're awake, but you can't move your body at all. It doesn't obey you.

Yeah I go through that every time I try to get out of bed, except I usually still feel as though I'm asleep


I'm not one of those guys who believes in every conspiracy theory from 9/11 to the moon landings, but I'd find it silly for someone to 'not' think that there's life somewhere out there. As as been stated here and many times everywhere else it's statistically improbable for us to inhabit the only habitable planet in the universe, I'm pretty sure they even found fossils on mars or something. That's as silly as saying we're the only place that has H2O!

As for aliens, UFOs, and all these dreams etc, I don't know what to really think. There's pictures, videos, etc, but none of them are really confusing, and people's brains can conjure of some crazy stuff on it's own. If there WERE hyper advanced aliens capable at FTL travel, abducting our crap, and communicating to us through our dreams they would have either officially and openly greet us or already blown us all to smithereens and enslaved us already instead of f-ing around.

[newbieguitarmaker]

The sleep thing is called sleep paralysis, it's when you wake up before your body re-establishes it's movement. Some get hallucinations with them which has caused many false alien abduction claims/ other random claims or it just scares you a lot. In general your body essentially disconnects when you sleep so you don't act out dreams but sometimes you wake up before you regain control

It depends on a lot of conditions to have the paralysis or hallucination. I think really bad migraines do it to me.

Edit: saw someone earlier mentioned it. I'm on my phone so I missed it.

[AxeHappy]

I believe they did discover life on one of Jupiter's Moons? Just tiny (microscopic I believe) organisms in the water but that's life.

What I don't understand about the whole alien thing is why are they always more advanced then us? Maybe the aliens are still bumbling around in the stone age.

[IbanezDaemon]

Originally Posted by AxeHappy

I believe they did discover life on one of Jupiter's Moons? Just tiny (microscopic I believe) organisms in the water but that's life.

What I don't understand about the whole alien thing is why are they always more advanced then us? Maybe the aliens are still bumbling around in the stone age.

Good point Axehappy. There may be life close to us but maybe not the intelligent life we are searching for. It's bound to exist at every stage from simple micro-organisms to civilisations that are into several million years worth of evolution. The term 'needle in a haystack' would be the biggest underestimate of all time when applied to the SETI efforts. There's way more chance of them finding us than the other way round I think.

Here's two vids that I think are pretty cool showing the scale of things that we are dealing with in the Universe:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGxRWCmwSDE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ptdbNUtpx4&feature=fvw