UFO / abductions / conspiracy theory

[espenguin]

Great topic! i totally believe, i have seen it first hand.
I've been visited since i was a baby , my earliest memory is being surrounded by the "little doctors" it's been such a part of my life ,i no longer fear them.
I have had numerous medical tests and seen countless psych people so there is nothing wrong with me emotionally or physically.
I am currently working with an native american shaman to find answers, mostly why me? i was originally a catholic but try to talk to a priest or pastor about UFOS and aliens,they just arent open to the idea of otherworldy beings, and i do not think the aliens are satanic demons.
Its very rare i talk about this by the way.

i'm really looking forward to the movie "the fourth kind" if you havent seen the trailer yet check it out

--Rudolf

[mike570]

I used to have a greater belief in UFO's up until the last several years. I think in this day and age when there are cameras EVERYWHERE, including your cell phone, that someone would have produced the irrefutable evidence that UFO's exist. And someone would have already put it up on YouTube or a similar site. It's disheartening because I write (sci-fi usually) and want to believe, but having a science background I have to try and see things objectively and not let the evidence try and confirm my opinions.
If the US is secretly in contact with extraterrestrials, then hats off to our military! It's virtually impossible to keep a secret these days; especially one SO big!
And yes, I wonder why films often protray them landing here. If I were a UFO driver I'd probably land in the relatively uninhabited parts of Australia, Siberia, or Canada.
I think lots of UFO sightings can be explained too. Lots of times Venus is mistaken for a UFO. And if you saw the B2 flying at night in, say, the early 1990's you might think it was a UFO.
Do I think life exists elsewhere in the universe? Hell yes! Doing the "Contact" numbers game there are probably thousands of intelligent civilizations out there.
The question is; if you can travel SO far in a reasonable amount of time and be advanced enough to cheat light speed, would you really visit Earth?
For #$%& sake, we don't even get along with each other! How would we treat a guest?

[UV-7-BK]

geez that was a bloody long post!!! sorry guys

[THE UNIVERSAL ONE]

Wow! You guys have had some experiences. I wouldn't wanna go through all that for my "confirmation of existance". I'd be bouncin' my head off a wall for a couple years at least.

[UV-7-BK]

hey petie!!
wow, havent heard of that before!!! Hard not to be a sceptic about these sorts of things......but that was a tale my father in law told me.......witnesses were in the hundreds though........my father in law is probably the most honest and genuine person i know....i am very much inclined to believe him...that said... everyone has their own thoughts on the matter!!!
the 3 lights i a triangle formation i believe to be military aircraft....ive seen one very near the melbourne airport(where i live)..there one minute and gone the next!!!!....the governments definately have technology we are unaware of!!!!

[Mr. Killer]

Have you guys ever wondered why the government is supposedly hiding the truth about the aliens? Think of all the panic that knowledge would create all around the world!! To give you an example: the government admits there is intelligent life in other planets. Acording to christian religion, God created us, but who created these creatures? God? Another God? Are we just an experiment? Then all christians would panic and worry a lot. Now, think what would happen if the government admits they've been making deals with these creatures, deals that allow them to take any of us in exchange for their technology. I would preffer not to know that.

Yeah I know you hate me now I'm just giving my opinion. But remember: if we weren't curious, we wouldn't have all the technology we use nowadays.

[Magical Muffin]

Originally Posted by Mr. Killer

Now, think what would happen if the government admits they've been making deals with these creatures, deals that allow them to take any of us in exchange for their technology. I would preffer not to know that.

I'd want to know that, I want shoes that tie themselves and food replicators!

[shredmaster]

Originally Posted by Mr. Killer

Now, think what would happen if the government admits they've been making deals with these creatures, deals that allow them to take any of us in exchange for their technology. I would preffer not to know that. )

I agree. first off, they would never admit anything. they are behind so much BS, using us to fuel their machine, they would never fess up. 2nd, I agree with you. Don't think for a second they wouldn't trade hundreds or thousands of us for technology or whatever they want. I'm also sure there is a cancer cure or AIDS cure that only they or their families get. I'm sure they let it run rampid to kill off the unwanted populations...or whatever reason they have. Again, I'm not saying I'm right, I'm saying this is what I strongly believe. WAY TOO MANY RED FLAGS with the 911 situation. i remember watching it and thinking right there....where's the plane in the field!?! they cleaned up a jumbo jet in 10 mins? Gee, that's a small hole in the side of the pentagon?! looks more like a sidewinder missile created it. To my surprise i found all these same issues on the web complete with drawings and diagrams, etc. still never any mention of the plane in the field. I don't trust the government with anything. It's too bad they turned. This could be a really great country if it was still for the people like it was back in the day... late 1700s (not that there wasn't corruption back then but it was more of how it was supposed to be.) it's for the government and what they need to do to benefit them and OTHER countries. i'm also seeing more spanish BS here in the USA. illegals everywhere and nothing to stop them. that's enough on that...no one in the "government" has the balls to do anything about anything. how hard is it to prevent these illegals from coming in here? they sure lay down the law for us if you're late with mortgage payments, taxes, medical, anything else. quick story. my aunt was at the doctor when a mexican woman and 5 kids came in, get checked out and left. my aunt said, i couldn't help but notice you waived their bill. the nurse said....well, they couldn't afford it. WHAT!!!!! would that happen for me ever!!!??

[UV-7-BK]

Originally Posted by shredmaster

quick story. my aunt was at the doctor when a mexican woman and 5 kids came in, get checked out and left. my aunt said, i couldn't help but notice you waived their bill. the nurse said....well, they couldn't afford it. WHAT!!!!! would that happen for me ever!!!??

dayum...that blows!!!!

[Emericavox]

to qoute the words of dave chappelle "The system wasnt made for us" haha=p

[Robstar]

Originally Posted by shredmaster

This could be a really great country if it was still for the people like it was back in the day... late 1700s (not that there wasn't corruption back then but it was more of how it was supposed to be.) it's for the government and what they need to do to benefit them and OTHER countries. i'm also seeing more spanish BS here in the USA. illegals everywhere and nothing to stop them. that's enough on that...no one in the "government" has the balls to do anything about anything. !??

Woooah there friend! This thread is talking about extra-terrestrials from outer space not alien immigrants from beyond our borders. One flies around in an hyperdimentional spaceship the other is working to feed their families for very little money. I think you know the difference.
Late 1700s the way it was supposed to be? Really! You do know that slavery was legal then and women could not vote or had many rights. Lets stay on point.
UFOs from outer space and beyond!!!!!!

[shredmaster]

Originally Posted by Robstar

Late 1700s the way it was supposed to be? Really! You do know that slavery was legal then and women could not vote or had many rights. Lets stay on point. UFOs from outer space and beyond!!!!!!

I know the difference. Still today people have to remind other people how bad slavery was. I didn't realize there were those among us (not you) that were over 200 years old. No one knows how bad it was back then. No one was alive then. According to government, everyone is supposed to have the same freedoms today. I have an issue with those who don't work because they don't want to or don't pay taxes because they don't want to or don't speak the language becuase they don't want to, and get a free ride on my dime. And no one alive today is at fault for issues back then either. I got off track for a second. I mentioned the 1700s because back then the new government was, for the most part, for the people. Now it's for themselves. I mentioned nothing of slavery.

Bamm, maybe they landed on the moon but not in the 50s. The US was in a massive rush to get there before the soviet union. Everyone knows we weren't on schedule at all and didn't have the technology ready. Maybe we went, but not when they said we did.

[Emericavox]

Originally Posted by shredmaster

Bamm, maybe they landed on the moon but not in the 50s.

definately not the 50's..maybe 1969? =p

[UV-7-BK]

spot on mr killer!!! this is the reason i hate religion(dont shoot me)!!!! Im more worried about christians than terrorists!!!!
we as a species have the technology to not be reliant on fossil fuels!! we have free energy and the powers that be wont let that happen because there is no money to be made from free energy.....it really makes me sad to think we dont have to extract crude oil from the earth and pillage our only home.......we are a cancer of the earth!!!!
sorry to be such a kill joy.....but sometimes it really pisses me off that we can be so dumb!!!
on another note...has anyone heard of the Endgame document? also megadeths new album title.

[StoneLord]

And where is my silver jumpsuit?