Virginia Tech Shooting....

[jb4674]

Have you guys heard what happened? So far, 22 people were killed by a student who apparently had a problem with a professor at the university. What did those 22 people he killed have to do with the guy's personal matters? This is so unbelievable.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18134671/

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/16/vte...ing/index.html

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/...n2686709.shtml

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3045574

It is completely incredible how lack of security can play a major role on a situation of this magnitude. I'm simply outraged at how much freedom of this and freedom of that exists in the US even after recent current events. It's as if polititians think the constitution was written by God or something.

IMO, I think the Constitution and the bill of rights are long overdue for a Revision.

Jimmy

[jaxadam]

That's crazy...

It hits home with me, because I grew up in Va, and that's where eveyone goes to college.

I think you're right, we definitely need to update the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

[OLIE_ROCKS_THE_80'S]

Originally Posted by jb4674

Have you guys heard what happened? So far, 22 people were killed by a student who apparently had a problem with a professor at the university. What did those 22 people he killed have to do with the guy's personal matters? This is so unbelievable.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18134671/

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/16/vte...ing/index.html

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/...n2686709.shtml

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3045574

It is completely incredible how lack of security can play a major role on a situation of this magnitude. I'm simply outraged at how much freedom of this and freedom of that exists in the US even after recent current events. It's as if polititians think the constitution was written by God or something.

IMO, I think the Constitution and the bill of rights are long overdue for a Revision.

Jimmy

These are just symptoms of a greater evil and a decay in our society, morals and religion!

[JJEMMER777]

Yeah...I've been watching that unfold on the news Sad and rediculous


And you're right Jimmy, we do need to insitute armed security in all of our schools!

A sad but very true fact! The Constitution is a joke in the modern era. I mean come on.....like the founding fathers had ANY inkling of and idea how things would be nowadays

People suck and there will always be copy cats since the Columbine shooting right here in CO!

Maybe this will FINALLY push it over the edge. Let's hope!



Don't let this thread get out of hand guys

[the.godfather]

Tragic news, and on such a large scale too.

A real shame.

[Demiurge]

Wow, last update I heard, there was only 1 reported death....

As far as all this talk about revising the Constitution (when only article 2 in the bill or rights deals vaguely with guns): I don't know what's worse, being vulnerable to having my life taken away by some gun-toting psycho enabled by lack of security OR having my rights as a law-abiding citizen taken away as a knee-jerk reaction to events perpetrated by gun-toting psychos. I'll have to say the latter.

[jaxadam]

Wow, they just said 31 people, now. at 2:30 PM.

[sick-boy]

CNN's reporting a death toll of 31 now...

As far as all this talk about revising the Constitution (when only article 2 in the bill or rights deals vaguely with guns): I don't know what's worse, being vulnerable to having my life taken away by some gun-toting psycho enabled by lack of security OR having my rights as a law-abiding citizen taken away as a knee-jerk reaction to events perpetrated by gun-toting psychos. I'll have to say the latter.

It is quite a catch 22. It's a sad world we live in. We need more Mother Teresas.

[JJEMMER777]

Originally Posted by Demiurge

I'll have to say the latter.

I don't see as we have a choice anymore.....

If I had kids, I'd be afraid to let them go to school. I think I'd do home tutoring, but they miss out on SOO much with that. But at least I'd feel more a sence of security.

Just watch...now in the next few days or weeks, the copy cats will be out in force

Originally Posted by jaxadam

Wow, they just said 31 people, now. at 2:30 PM.

Wow.... the toll keeps going up



And on top of that, the little coward killed himself because he couldn't face up to it all

this makes me SOOOO angry!!!!!!

[voodoo_child]

Originally Posted by sick-boy

It is quite a catch 22. It's a sad world we live in. We need more Mother Teresas.

Sad country would be more apt.

Very tragic loss of life Disgusting

[JJEMMER777]

Originally Posted by voodoo_child

Sad country would be more apt.

I KNEW this would happen No U.S. bashing! that's NOT what this is about

It's NOT a sad country! It's a wonderful country filled with a wealth of oppurtunity. It's just a handful of sad people that cause the unrest

I've been around the world and the U.S. will ALWAYS be home!



BTW - Ireland (my homeland) has had it's bloody share of massacres as well, voo doo.

[kennydoe]

Chris Rock had a great solution to the gun problem...since we can't get the NRA to waver...Make bullets cost $5,000 each. People would be really careful about who the waste those bullets on.

[sick-boy]

Originally Posted by JJEMMER777

I KNEW this would happen No U.S. bashing! that's NOT what this is about

It's NOT a sad country! It's a wonderful country filled with a wealth of oppurtunity. It's just a handful of sad people that cause the unrest

I'm glad you responded. I was trying to think of a tactful way to respond and nothing came to mind that didn't involve a lot or swearing.

[jb4674]

Simply ridiculous what went on at VT this morning. I feel for those families whom are going to have to bury all those kids.

Demiurge,

While I do respect your views and your opinion on the matter, I think there is a certain validity to my previous statement. Although the bill of rights deals with guns only on article 2, you have to seriously consider the impact that a document, such as the consititution, that was written by our founding fathers many many years ago can have numerous negative ramifications and exploits because we have all been told time and time again that those freedoms and rights it advocates should be defended to the teeth.

When our founding fathers wrote it, it was during a time in which we (the people) were fighting for our freedom and independence from England.

Revising the Constitution and the Bill of Rights is not something that should be thought of in a negative manner. You revise things to improve them, not to forget them. Times have definitely changed and what was valid in 1787 no longer holds such a validity in many aspects but in our hearts and in history books.

Many countries have revised their articles of indenpendence and they are still operating well. Why should the US be any different?

When I was living in Peru (my homeland) from my childhood to my early teens, I witnessed terrorism first hand, courtesy of the "Shining Path". When the Constitution was modified to allow for the prosecution and proper punishment of those individuals, the government managed to get rid of that group and its leader.

Jimmy

P.S.: For the record, I'm not trying to start an argument of any sort. I am actually looking past what one individual has done and I'm trying to look at the problem from its root and how it affects us all. I am also very happy and proud to be a US Citizen. There simply isn't any other country I'd rather live in.

[voodoo_child]

Originally Posted by JJEMMER777

I KNEW this would happen No U.S. bashing! that's NOT what this is about

Uh...it wasnt US bashing, if i was doing that the thread would be 10 pages long. (joking )

Just correcting a point. I don't think of the world as a sad place.

Anyway, very tragic day, my sympathies go out to anyone affected.