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**jim777** · #16 10-12-2009, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayrton

I pointed out to my two young daughters while they were watching a Jonas Brothers "performance" that there was an actual band in the background playing the music.

My 10 year was kinda bummed actually and I felt bad. Kinda like letting her know there is no Santa (which I have NOT done).

I think the Jonas kids are still playing though, just turned down. My daughters love them, one is a total fanatic, but she doesn't think they are the epitome of what music can be. She just likes them, which is totally fine by me. At least they write their own songs, which most of the pop crowd doesn't do.

IbanezFreak777 · #17 10-13-2009, 12:44 AM

Each to their own, I respect what every musician does and appreciate the difficulty in writing music in any genre. I dont have to like it, nor listen to it, but as a musician you must be open to all music of any level of technicality and spirituality...

My 3 cents :P

560licious · #18 10-13-2009, 01:21 PM

the only time I've seen anything to do with the Jonas Brothers was when they where caracters on SouthPark...LMFAO..great to see Mickey beat the crap out of one of them..

Andy43 · #19 10-13-2009, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jemsite

you guys need to understand "guitar god" is an obsolete concept. a blip of the radar in time.

plus, sad to say, some of the pop music like that is more catchy to the average person than some "guitar god".

never underestimate how important public reception is to making art relevant... glen

Great post!

Honestly, I think pop music gets too bad of a rep from crowds outside of pop music. Popular music is just that, music that attracts a lot of people and is popular. Writing a pop song is actually much more difficult than people make it out to be. And if that many people like the music, I really don't think we should be hating on it. The music is pleasing such a large amount of people that it's kind of wrong to say that they "suck".

Magical Muffin · #20 10-13-2009, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy43

Honestly, I think pop music gets too bad of a rep from crowds outside of pop music. Popular music is just that, music that attracts a lot of people and is popular. Writing a pop song is actually much more difficult than people make it out to be. And if that many people like the music, I really don't think we should be hating on it. The music is pleasing such a large amount of people that it's kind of wrong to say that they "suck".

The thing is, a lot of pop artists don't come up with anything other than lyrics, sometimes not even that. Do you think Britney Spears actually came up with any of those techno grooves and melodies? Of course not. All she does is go into the studio with a piece of paper, sing for a bit, and let the rest of the production crew make the rest of the song, while she gets incredibly famous and gets a fatter paycheck than a lot of people would dream of. At the very most, the pop artist will give a chord progression or something.
(At least that's how I think it goes. If i'm completely wrong someone please correct me.)

Not to mention that some artists are 100% manufactured and brought up by the record company until they think the artist isn't 'hip' or whatever anymore. This includes the Jonas Brothers, Miley Cyrus, every other disney creation, etc.

jay ratkowski · #21 10-14-2009, 12:48 PM

I swear I saw the Jonas Brothers in person years ago at some random event...

That said, I don't know any of their songs. I thought I knew what they looked like until I saw them on a magazine cover at the grocery store and realized my perception was outdated by probably 4 years.

Do they write their own songs? If so, I suppose that's neat. It's pretty rare for any corporate pop star to write even a few lyrics, let alone an entire song. From interviews and other stuff I've read, when a song gives writing credits to say Britney Spears with (insert studio writer here), it often means that Britney Spears has a concept for a song (I want an empowering breakup song) and maybe a few words here and there. The writer does the music, full lyrics, etc.

EDIT - Glen has it right. Not saying anyone should start liking the Jonas Brothers simply because the American public does. We must all realize that 99/100 people you meet on the street would either completely disregard or even insult you for bringing up Steve Vai or Dream Theater as enjoyable music. That said, my philosophy is generally if most people like it, it's probably not too clever.

Andy43 · #22 10-14-2009, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Magical Muffin

The thing is, a lot of pop artists don't come up with anything other than lyrics, sometimes not even that. Do you think Britney Spears actually came up with any of those techno grooves and melodies? Of course not. All she does is go into the studio with a piece of paper, sing for a bit, and let the rest of the production crew make the rest of the song, while she gets incredibly famous and gets a fatter paycheck than a lot of people would dream of. At the very most, the pop artist will give a chord progression or something.
(At least that's how I think it goes. If i'm completely wrong someone please correct me.)

Not to mention that some artists are 100% manufactured and brought up by the record company until they think the artist isn't 'hip' or whatever anymore. This includes the Jonas Brothers, Miley Cyrus, every other disney creation, etc.

I agree with what you are saying, but I was speaking more about pop music in general, not the musicians. The actual bands/performers are just images for the music. However that's not to say that every pop artist doesn't write their own music, some actually do (Madonna, Lady Gaga, etc.). I was just speaking about the general disrespect that a lot of non-pop enthusiasts have for pop music.

Anyways, this topic is about the Jonas Brothers. Sorry for deviating.

sirshredsalot · #23 10-14-2009, 10:36 PM

Jonas Brothers are nothing more than talentless skin puppets the record industry decided to market towards prepubescent teens. My hatred towards humanity is confirmed with each passing day.

Gilberto99 · #24 10-16-2009, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Magical Muffin

Not to mention all them I see are fat and whiter than vanilla ice

Hahah!

as far as the thread.. I stopped caring about what other people think about other musicians a long time ago.

Personally I can't stand the damn jonas brothers though.

socratys · #25 10-16-2009, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Magical Muffin

Not to mention that some artists are 100% manufactured and brought up by the record company until they think the artist isn't 'hip' or whatever anymore. This includes the Jonas Brothers, Miley Cyrus, every other disney creation, etc.

Tell me about it! The pop music industry is just sick.
It makes me cry thinking about how Hanson were just cast aside after the Jonas brothers (?) stole their limelight...

IamFastEddie · #26 10-31-2009, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Killer

I'm sick of those guys. My friends keep telling me "why don't you play a Jonas Brother's song? They're awesome!", and I say "F*ck it! Do you actually think they make music?". That's why I never say that I can play guitar, because people expect you to play famous songs that sometimes you don't like, and if you don't play them, then they say you suck. Only my best friends know I play guitar. Friends that, by the way, like the music that I like.

I remember back in the day when I'd be in cover bands and we'd have to play the most insipid lameness, but at least we were getting paid for it. I don't think I'd every play that garbage for free.

shredmaster · #27 11-02-2009, 03:35 PM

i don't think i could play it for money either

Emericavox · #28 11-02-2009, 04:19 PM

ha funny you two mentioned getting payed for playing pop music because one of the songs that i have to play with this youth group im helping out is "year 3000" by the jonas brothers. I personally cant relate to any of their music but the kids sure seem to love it.

IBANEZRG320DXFMTG · #29 11-11-2009, 02:19 PM

well they have their own kind and selection of music, actually the music they have is just for the kids, like frank sinatra for grandpa and grandma and jonas brothers for the kids..

S-man · #30 11-11-2009, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jemsite

you guys need to understand "guitar god" is an obsolete concept. a blip of the radar in time.

plus, sad to say, some of the pop music like that is more catchy to the average person than some "guitar god".

never underestimate how important public reception is to making art relevant... glen

Exactly. Most people that listen to music do not play an instrument.

They don't care about the technical difficulty of the guitar playing.

They don't care about the "guitar god" mentality.

Personally, I think a lot of guys spend too much time on the technical end as opposed to just creating something that sounds good. That's what most people care about.

Additionally, there is more to music than just guitar....believe it or not.

Oh yeah, who the hell are the Jonas Brothers? LOL!