Could/would you change your political side?

[jim777]

I've changed who I'm going to vote for in the last 10 days or so, but there's nothing that could keep me from voting. NOTHING. I don't get the "I won't vote" thing at all, honestly.

Here, watch for a few minutes, have a laugh, and think about it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdRVQ4xwwmQ

[callen3615]

Im tired of hearing the words "change" and "maverick"

[jb4674]

1. I can guess who Glen will vote for given his comments.

2. Cid's stance on not voting is not something that should be bashed. Just because you don't vote, doesn't mean that there won't be a new president in office come January of '09.

3. The whole electoral process in the US is a flawed system. Even IF you decide to vote, all you're doing is electing someone whom will in term vote for a candidate. In the end, if there aren't a lot of electoral college members voting for your guy, your guy won't win. I think it's time that the electoral college is put to rest and the elections are based on popular vote alone.

4. While Obama and McCain are the candidates for president, one really has to put things into perspective and think about who's going to replace them should either one of them get a) shot; b) a heart attack.

5. I don't have any good feelings about either candidate at this point. Moreover, I honestly don't think Obama has the chops to be able to sit in the Oval Office. I've been on the fence about this election and quite honestly don't know if I will be voting in November.

Jimmy

[jaxadam]

I think this has been a pretty interesting year with all of what has been going on. I've never really been affiliated with one party or another. I think it's very interesting that some people are so die hard for one party, even when another party's choice is clearly better (sadly that didn't happen this year).

I vote for the candidate or party who will have an effect on my life and my livelihood, and it just so happens that one party really keeps a lot of the work going on in the business I'm in, so I obviously go that route.

I think that is what should matter to people, not the hopes and dreams that the candidates put out there, but what really ends up happening to them individually. It's not a popularity contest, and people should not believe all of the bs out there. Someone should actually use their brain and do some independent research, and then make up their mind, not believe what everyone else tells them.

[CalledToArms]

im voting, but not in either mccain or obama because I think both of them (and republicans and democrats in general at the moment) have lost touch with what our country really needs. I am a convervative, but a classic conservative, not modern republican conservative (though I did vote for Bush last time because, despite not being a huge Bush fan I liked him a lot more than Kerry). Unfortunately, neither of the two major parties cater to these needs. Ron Paul was the closest while he was running as a Repub candidate.

[callen3615]

Originally Posted by CalledToArms

im voting, but not in either mccain or obama because I think both of them (and republicans and democrats in general at the moment) have lost touch with what our country really needs. I am a convervative, but a classic conservative, not modern republican conservative (though I did vote for Bush last time because, despite not being a huge Bush fan I liked him a lot more than Kerry). Unfortunately, neither of the two major parties cater to these needs. Ron Paul was the closest while he was running as a Repub candidate.

a perfect economist. but how does a candidate that is backed by chuck norris lose???????? (he plays bass too)

[ken_r152]

I think that having only 2 main political parties is part of the problem. There are a lot of political subject matters out there, and I don't think that simply choosing "Column A" or "Column B" will satisfy most people.

[Darin]

Question to Obama supporters. Does it bother you at all that Iran supports Obama?

http://www.google.com/search?q=iran+...oe=utf-8&aq=t&
rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&client=firefox-a

Or that some terrorist organizations support Obama?

http://rentamark.blog.com/3152380/

Obama has stated he can work with terrorists groups. According to an unconformed report, .... of the following terrorists groups "support" and endorce Barak Hussein Obama for President of the U.S. starting with al Qaeda, .....

Aside from the Marxist accusations, and other left vs right wing debated policies, which have nothing to do with this post. Just the idea that any political candidate for President of the United States is supported by sworn enemies of western capitalism and liberty is telling.

Maybe it's not true, maybe Iran and other middle east groups do not support Obama. I haven't found any information that they don't. But my question is only that if they do, does it bother you as an Obama supporter? What are your thoughts on just this subject?

Please, stay with the question and do not go accusing anyone of anything. If you believe that the middles east does not support Obama, that's fine, please post up and I'll be glad to research it. Glen has been kind enough to allow a rare political discussion, and so far, everyone has been pretty good about it. So I'm not making any unsubstantiated claims. Just posing a question that relates directly to the poll in this thread. Maybe it's a deal breaker for some of you. Not saying it should be, just curious if it is.

-Darin

[Rich]

Do they support a candidate every election?

Does anybody in the US care who they support?

What "support" are they actually giving? Campaign contributions?

BO has sworn to get us out of Iraq, JM has sworn we'll stay there till who knows when. You think that may have something to do with it?

[elcid]

EDIT: It's not worth getting into

[Darin]

Originally Posted by Rich

Do they support a candidate every election?

Does anybody in the US care who they support?

What "support" are they actually giving? Campaign contributions?

BO has sworn to get us out of Iraq, JM has sworn we'll stay there till who knows when. You think that may have something to do with it?

I want out of Iraq. I guess I agree with Obama on that one.

As in support. It's like, some of us now support Obama and some Palin. I guess it's a support of hope to win.

So, if terrorist groups are more likely to support one candidate over another, does that matter to you? Aside from all the other policy decisions, that alone seam pretty darn huge to me.

[the]

for me, im a pretty fierce independent, so i change all the time to get the guy i want elected in the primaries. didn't work with ron paul this time around

[jemsite]

terrorist groups don't vote hence they have no concern to me who they're pulling for. get real.

tactically they surely want more bush redux. what terrorist wouldn't? Our government's rush towards aggression and abandonment of domestic responsibilities already helped nearly bankrupt the world economy . The US WAR MACHINE PARTY enhances and helps move towards any terrorists END GAME... further chaos of the world order, financial system, deplete the cash reserves of the US and BANKRUPT it's allies (and no longer real allies) & complete breakdown of our infrastructure. Very basic stuff... glen

[waylay00]

Originally Posted by Darin

Question to Obama supporters. Does it bother you at all that Iran supports Obama?

http://www.google.com/search?q=iran+...oe=utf-8&aq=t&
rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&client=firefox-a

Or that some terrorist organizations support Obama?

http://rentamark.blog.com/3152380/




Aside from the Marxist accusations, and other left vs right wing debated policies, which have nothing to do with this post. Just the idea that any political candidate for President of the United States is supported by sworn enemies of western capitalism and liberty is telling.

Maybe it's not true, maybe Iran and other middle east groups do not support Obama. I haven't found any information that they don't. But my question is only that if they do, does it bother you as an Obama supporter? What are your thoughts on just this subject?

Please, stay with the question and do not go accusing anyone of anything. If you believe that the middles east does not support Obama, that's fine, please post up and I'll be glad to research it. Glen has been kind enough to allow a rare political discussion, and so far, everyone has been pretty good about it. So I'm not making any unsubstantiated claims. Just posing a question that relates directly to the poll in this thread. Maybe it's a deal breaker for some of you. Not saying it should be, just curious if it is.

-Darin

Does it bother you that several Al-Qaeda groups support McCain?

http://www.politico.com/blogs/michae...dorsement.html

I'm halfway being rhetorical, but seriously, it's the about the same type of ridiculous question.

[waylay00]

Also, regarding the electoral college system, the Founding Fathers got it right the first time. Considering that 58% of the country's population lies in urban centers, candidates would only cater their campaigns and policies that affect such areas (subsidized rent control, etc...) if the electoral college were abolished. Effectively, one could campaign in New York, California, and a few other big city states and win.

Ron Paul wrote a good explanation:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul214.html