Mesa MK IV, MK III, Rocktron Prophecy or Both?

[6fingers]

Originally Posted by Crazy_Guitar

Actually, Behringer doesn't suck. They have very sturdy gear and with awsome bang for buck.

I know it's HIS ears and HIS tone. But he asked for an opinion, so he had one.
He's still encouraged to try out the gear for himself! C'mon, it's like a pair of pants. They may suit me, but they might not be comfortable for you.

My friend I gotta tell you I worked for a lot of studios as a recording engineer and all behringer equipment suck comparing to other labels.
Of course it's cheap cause it doesn't do what it should do.
Compressors don't work properly or at least like the other labels.
Equalizers never alter the right frequency,it's a mess.
Behringer pedals are a joke comparing to boss or digitech.
Sorry but my experience with behringer is = NO THANKS lol

[Crazy_Guitar]

I have a Behringer wah pedal in my rig and I won't even consider the change.
I also have a Behringer Virtualizer for reverbs only. Nothing to say, either!

[toneboy]

Originally Posted by Magical Muffin

Some apples are better than other apples, and some are rotten. Same thing for oranges. Thus you can compare apples and oranges to each other by comparing them to the general quality of other apples and other oranges.

Also, you can compare them in the sense of "Oranges are more acidic, both are sweet, they are different colors, can vary in size but are often similar to each other in size, etc"

You are missing the point. Read this please.

[6fingers]

Originally Posted by toneboy

You are missing the point. Read this please.

I love fruits.
A RECTorange would be cool.
A Mark melon too.
Maybe a Marshanana ?
lol

[Magical Muffin]

Originally Posted by toneboy

You are missing the point. Read this please.

No, I got the point, but I felt like being an a - hole

And Behringer doesn't suck apart from the many things that they make that instantly brake down.

[toneboy]

Originally Posted by Magical Muffin

No, I got the point, but I felt like being an a - hole

Well, the next time you get that feeling, don't go with it.

[jono]

Originally Posted by toneboy

You are missing the point. Read this please.

If you actually read that article it does say that in the real world people compare apples to oranges all the time and in fact that although a useful phrase, that the idiom itself is flawed.

Thus I say comparing a Mk V to an Axe FX IS like comparing apples to oranges, and thus a very valid comparison.

Do you want an all singing all dancing processor and amp modeller or do you want to make some glass bottles glow?

Which piece of fruit do you fancy today?

[toneboy]

Originally Posted by jono

If you actually read that article it does say that in the real world people compare apples to oranges all the time and in fact that although a useful phrase, that the idiom itself is flawed.

Thus I say comparing a Mk V to an Axe FX IS like comparing apples to oranges, and thus a very valid comparison.

Do you want an all singing all dancing processor and amp modeller or do you want to make some glass bottles glow?

Which piece of fruit do you fancy today?

People may compare apples to oranges all the time but when they do, what criteria are they using to compare them? While they both may be fruit, they are very different in many ways. They are different colors, different textures and taste different. To say an apple is better than an orange or vice versa is highly subjective. If I say that an apple is better than orange, no one can disprove me because it is my opinion which is based upon the values and requirements that I have deemed most important to me.

If one wishes to compare any digital modeler a tube amp then you need to:
- Clearly identify all the components being compared
- Features
- Flexibility
- Ease of use
- Initial cost
- Maintenance costs.
- Weight
- Size
- Reliability
- Consistency of tone (How does it sound at a low volume? At a high volume? Does it sound change over time (months)?

All of the above are objective elements and have nothing to do with sound quality (tone) which is highly subjective. Once the objective elements have been detailed then personal values can be associated with each one.

For example, if cost is not an issue for the buyer than it can be removed from the list of comparative criteria.

While sound quality is generally considered the most important criteria when selecting an amplification solution, this element can become irrelevant if each of the the rigs being compared can both create the tones the buyer wants.

The main reasons that most people have difficulty choosing gear is that they have difficulty separating the objective (specs or facts) from the subjective (opinion) and they have not clearly identified the features that are most important to them.

I sold gear to guitar players for almost 12 yrs. Some players knew what they wanted and some did not until I asked them the right questions.

[Sickbean]

Originally Posted by jono

Which piece of fruit do you fancy today?

Grapes.

[Cam-Vai]

ok so im def on a mesa
but my dad was being a total tool (many of you understand im sure . . .)
and i was bidding on a g-force on **** (mind you with my money) and he said no,
i asked why?
"you can get it later, its not important"
IT SOLD FOR 760 AUS????
g-major on buy it now for 800? WTF?
but what kicks me is he sais "get one later for christmas or something"
ive gone "what, you paying 3 grand for it?"
nope.
turns out i have to pay for it when i get it.

:'(

and it doesnt help that im having a bad enough week as it is.
but that sucks, cuz im buying a midi controller, and getting an old rack case of a friend and it could've fit right in there.

but i dont know 'bout propecy (prophesy? spelling?)

cuz apparently its heaps digital and stuff



is a g-major crap? or should i wat for g-force?


cam0vai

[jono]

Originally Posted by Cam-Vai

ok so im def on a mesa
but my dad was being a total tool (many of you understand im sure . . .)
and i was bidding on a g-force on **** (mind you with my money) and he said no,
i

Yeah, because parents never have your best interests at heart

[Sickbean]

Originally Posted by jono

Yeah, because parents never have your best interests at heart

Nope, they're just jealous. Kill them now! You'd be better off raised by chickens - look at Buckethead, didn't do him any harm.

[Cam-Vai]

wish chickens would raise me haha
that would be interesting,




as a small back up amp for my metalcore/deathcore/pantera typ and would a krank krankenstein jr 50 watt be ok?

[bammbamm]

Mark IV as it was the best of the list, IMO, however, as Jono said, the Mk V is the newest to date and is supposed to have the Mark IIC+ tone built in.

[Cam-Vai]

okeydokey
mk v comnig to my shop soon
i think im going to buy a mesa 3/4 quarterback 2x12
then ill buy a krank krankenstein jr head for metalcore
and when a mk iv comes along ill get that!

suggestions?

cam-vai