steve vai vs. paul gilbert

[Magical Muffin]

Originally Posted by LonePhantom

Why is everything about metal? Vai never claimed to be metal, and most of PGs back catalogue is not metal, but does that matter? No. This forum is not just about metal.

Most of the 'shred' genre takes place within metal. Some of the earliest bands that soloed in such a way as to popularize shredding are considered heavy metal, such as black sabbath, iron maiden, Judas Priest and lots of thrash bands. Even a lot instrumental rock is far more closely related with metal than real 'Rock'. Shredders such as Yngwie Malmsteen are always found in the 'metal' section of music stores, and so on. Not to mention that the overwhelming majority of Ibanez guitars belong to people who play metal. How many discussions here are about the offspring (their lead guitarist having a signature production line with ibanez) or Stanley Jordan's latest works? NONE.

The term 'heavy metal' band does not instantly mean every song has to be downtuned and played really fast with lots of palm muting with a singer that either sounds like a castrato or a grizzly bear. I'd personally consider the overall metal genre to be the one with the widest and most varied sound. All you have to do is look at its ridiculous amount of subgenres and the amount of arguments that are about a certain bands specific subgenre that they fit in. Most other genres such as rap, punk, jazz, pop, etc can probably have their sound summed up in no more than 3 or 4 songs. Try that with metal and no matter what you do you will leave out massive gaps of the scene.

So yeah, more or less this forum IS just about metal :P

[Ibateur]

I think this thread should be closed and a new "Rant Here" thread should be opened. Every week, a new "kicker topic" should be started by the mods, similar to Vai vs Gilbert. After one week, it gets closed, regardless, and a new one gets opened by one of the mods.

Muffin's post could be a good kicker - what IS metal? To make it more antagonistic, what is GOOD metal ("nosiree officer, I swear i don't know what started the fight")

[Magical Muffin]

That idea will result in arguments so predictable its funny

[AxeHappy]

Dexter's guitars are better than Noodles

And Jazz has nearly as many sub-genres as Metal. Smooth Jazz sounds nothing like Hardbop.

[Metalbucker]

Anyone Like "SUICIDAL TENDENCIES"!?

[Metalbucker]

Originally Posted by Magical Muffin

Most of the 'shred' genre takes place within metal. Some of the earliest bands that soloed in such a way as to popularize shredding are considered heavy metal, such as black sabbath, iron maiden, Judas Priest and lots of thrash bands. Even a lot instrumental rock is far more closely related with metal than real 'Rock'. Shredders such as Yngwie Malmsteen are always found in the 'metal' section of music stores, and so on. Not to mention that the overwhelming majority of Ibanez guitars belong to people who play metal. How many discussions here are about the offspring (their lead guitarist having a signature production line with ibanez) or Stanley Jordan's latest works? NONE.

The term 'heavy metal' band does not instantly mean every song has to be downtuned and played really fast with lots of palm muting with a singer that either sounds like a castrato or a grizzly bear. I'd personally consider the overall metal genre to be the one with the widest and most varied sound. All you have to do is look at its ridiculous amount of subgenres and the amount of arguments that are about a certain bands specific subgenre that they fit in. Most other genres such as rap, punk, jazz, pop, etc can probably have their sound summed up in no more than 3 or 4 songs. Try that with metal and no matter what you do you will leave out massive gaps of the scene.

So yeah, more or less this forum IS just about metal :P

Perfectly Said!, This Magical Muffin Dude Is Very Cool!
Well Said Broseph!! Thanks for Clarifying!

I come to Expect Nothing Less from that "Lone" Pole Sm*ker" Dude!?

All He's Done Is Talk A LOT O' CaCa!
Almost Every time I Had A post, or An Opinion on Anything!

He Says the Exact Kinda Words from someone who 'IS';
"FALSE~METAL"!!

[LonePhantom]

Originally Posted by Metalbucker

I come to Expect Nothing Less from that "Lone" Pole Sm*ker" Dude!?

All He's Done Is Talk A LOT O' CaCa!
Almost Every time I Had A post, or An Opinion on Anything!

He Says the Exact Kinda Words from someone who 'IS';
"FALSE~METAL"!!

Get over your self, and watch the lame insults. That sort of thing is not tolerated here...

[Ibateur]

+1 to LonePhantom.

Having disagreements is completely fine when it comes to this board, but there's no need to insult each other.

To be honest there is very little reason to use bold, underlines, etc here either.

[DEADTUNES666]

Originally Posted by Ibateur

+1 to LonePhantom.

Having disagreements is completely fine when it comes to this board, but there's no need to insult each other.

To be honest there is very little reason to use bold, underlines, etc here either.

The bold and underlined thing is absolutely a bit ridiculous! Let's just all concede that Metalbucker is more metal than any of us! I'm good with not even being metal anymore... My love of Vai has nothing to even do with metal. Besides most of the bands I dig are pop metal 80's guys anyway...Which on the METAL scale is like medium weight tin...

Lone Phantom-He's a new guy trying to impress...Pay him no mind at all bro...

[jim777]

New Guys,

If your purpose here is to insult other members you are going to get an infraction. Do it again after that, and you are banned, take it on the road. There's a difference between disagreeing and simply being disagreeable.

jim

[Ibateur]

@Deadtune - lol 80's metal... me too. Spandau Ballet - man they were rockin'

[Metalbucker]

Originally Posted by Ibateur

@Deadtune - lol 80's metal... me too. Spandau Ballet - man they were rockin'

Don't Forget The B-52's, "Missing Persons" and "Tears for Fears' 1st few efforts!

All Genius Enough Musicians So Profoundly Talented That Thier Skills & Natural Born Talents
'Transcend' any 'Genre' Considerations!

Not to mention the Production And Engineering/Mastering on Any of these Albums/Cd's, Are Literal 'Textbooks of Audio Knowledge & Wisdom'
Beyond the Comprehension of Most!

And Voices So Sweet!, they Could Make A Grown Man Cry!

Or Even David Sylvian's "Gone To Earth" and "Secrets of the Beehive" Albums Were Deep and Profound,
Yet Still Modern & Futuristic Sounding/Ambient Classics to this Day!

And It Is My Knowledge And Appreciation Of Music Such As this that
Ultimately Makes Me A Much Better Musician, otherwise, And Allows Me A Richer Palette of Melodic & Percussive Familiararity when
Im' Plugging In My Guitar,Amps & Effects In "Stun-Metal-Mode', Broseph'!

[shredmaster]

80s RULE!! My favs are the tears for fears, the outfield, yes even A-HA, Flock of seagulls, anything Adam sandler uses in his soundtracks! One of my favs... Dead or alive... You spin me right round baby right round like a record baby ... Haha. Man I love that stuff. It really brings me back. Now I need my old bmx and my atari 2600 and I'm set! I really miss those days!

[cjrocker1]

steve vai!

[HeavyMetal4Ever]

How 'bout Steve Vai Vs Paul Gilbert in the Octagon, no holds barred? I know i'd watch that.

Rock on!