Would you buy an RG8?

[rivera213]

Originally Posted by jim777

I'm guessing there's a point in there... Schecter has an LA custom shop, and also cheaper instruments. Of course they want to be seen as capable of making extremely high quality axes! Note the identical headstock shapes of the custom shop and Korean guitars.

Don't talk crap. Schecter aren't even trying to compete with the big boys. B.C. Rich have a custom shop also but the quality is poor.

Originally Posted by jim777

Lots of folks like the Schecter 7s, and like the much thicker than Ibanez neck profiles they sport as well. But, you are assuming he's playing strictly Korean guitars, when that might not be the case. Most companies won't send out artist models for possible sigs that come off the assembly line.

No, i aint assuming anything of the sort. He obviously uses custom made, but Broderick more than likely has a Custom Shop too so the comparison is fair.

Originally Posted by jim777

Hardly anyone switches guitar endorsement companies after 'trying' another guitar. Most endorsers have guitars from more than one company as well (this is so painfully obvious it almost hurts to have to say). As already pointed out, and you would already know if you'd played them both, the Schecter and Ibanez 7's are very different playing guitars. The necks are different, the pickups are different, the woods are different. There lot's of room for personal preference here. "Money means nothing to people like him" :lol Money means something to everyone. A ridiculous notion prima facie. Popularity doesn't equal quality, and the world don't move to the beat of just one drum, etc.

Well you're either ignorant or naive cos yes there are a fair few players who switch after trying a better guitar. Money wont be the deciding factor for him. He wont play crap for money. He aint Vai.

Originally Posted by jim777

It does nothing of the sort.

It does if you're not an Ibanez fan boy.

Originally Posted by jim777

I guess they'll have to change all their ads now

I guess so lololololzlmao. Prick.

Originally Posted by jim777

It's widely known to Ibanez players, 7 string players, and anyone else paying attention that Rusty was NEVER going to get a sig model from Ibanez. Which is why he went to Dean in the first place. Rusty is a killer player, and is also evidently a very nice guy. He is not a proven seller of instruments, and didn't show what the suits at Ibanez felt was potential to sell either, and that's what gets you a sig deal from a big company. It goes back to the money, as nearly all endorsements do.

The reason Rusty left was because Ibanez treated him like ****. He wasn't raving about his custom made guitars either. The Dean is of a much higher quality.

Originally Posted by jim777

He kept the Jackson for a while after he hooked up with Ibanez, and he sold the Jackson, he didn't 'get rid of' it. He sold the Conkilin to the highest bidder as well. I guess Schecter and Dean are better than Conklins too?

So, he sold the guitar to someone (who is actually on this forum btw), but that's NOT getting rid of it? Emmmmmmm. You should be next in line for president with that intelligeance!

Also, the Conklin 9 was sold because he could really play it comfortably, it wasn't cos of quality issues. He is a small guy & obviously couldn't get his hands round it.

Originally Posted by jim777

Yeah, the sig model had nothing to do with it

No because he could have a signature with any decent company. That Dean is a billion times better than any Ibanez- custom or noon-custom as he has said himself. I've been in contact with a close friend of his so don't talk bollocks about him being only interested in a signature.

Originally Posted by jim777

Love the logic there.

We'll wait and see wont we fan-boy. While you're tossing off over Vai's crappy instrument, many better players will be playing better guitars.

Originally Posted by jim777

True. I guess congratulations are in order? I guess you should tip off Howe and Morse and Vai and Satch and everyone else playing rosewood that they're missing out.

Greg Howe & Steve Morse aren't "shredders" or metal players. Fusion style players (like Shawn Lane who played rosewood & Guthrie Govan who has rosewood on his) prefer the warmness of rosewood. PLUS- Iwas talking about people who pay for their guitars, not get given them.

Originally Posted by jim777

yawn

That was mature. Whether you like the sound or not- LOOK AT THE FEATURES Why would anyone with chops go for a crappy RG over that? They wouldn't o don't try to get smart cos 1- You're a fanboy & 2- You're american. It aint in your nature to be or even try to be intelligeant.

Originally Posted by jim777

You are either too young to have taken an intro to logic type of course or a blatant troll. And, that last shot at Drew was unnecessary and uncalled for. If you want to play like that, you can do it somewhere else.

jim

I'm 22 & all of what i said makes sense to someone who isn't in the pocket of Ibanez, or a fan-boy. You are at least 1 & probably 2 of those.

Again- it isn't trolling to give an opinion and i wont refrain from doing so just cos it upsets you.

It was a valid comment at Drew. The same can be said for you. It's obvious the freedom of speech notion in america is bull**** & obviously that extends to the forums.

[Drew]

Man, you ARE a troll.

A few selected points:

Originally Posted by rivera213

1.) No, i aint assuming anything of the sort. He obviously uses custom made, but Broderick more than likely has a Custom Shop too so the comparison is fair.

2.) The reason Rusty left was because Ibanez treated him like ****. He wasn't raving about his custom made guitars either. The Dean is of a much higher quality.


3.) Also, the Conklin 9 was sold because he could really play it comfortably, it wasn't cos of quality issues. He is a small guy & obviously couldn't get his hands round it.


4.) Greg Howe & Steve Morse aren't "shredders" or metal players. Fusion style players (like Shawn Lane who played rosewood & Guthrie Govan who has rosewood on his) prefer the warmness of rosewood. PLUS- Iwas talking about people who pay for their guitars, not get given them.

5.) You're american. It aint in your nature to be or even try to be intelligeant.

6.)It was a valid comment at Drew. The same can be said for you. It's obvious the freedom of speech notion in america is bull**** & obviously that extends to the forums.

1.) Actually, Jeff WAS using off-the-shelf Schecter Hellraisers (which ARE a top of the line Schecter, incidentally). A buddy of mine opened for him maybe six months ago, and confirmed that his Hellraiser with a trem was a stock black Hellraiser routed for an OFR. Meanwhile, Broderick's go-to axe is an off-the-rack 7620, though I believe he uses Bareknuckle pickups these days.

2.) Actually, the reason he left was they wouldn't build him a custom with a modification to the RG body shape. He wanted a deeper lower cutaway (see his Dean), but the one limit they placed on him was they wouldn't change the body style. Look at his two customs - one's a gorgeous XL-scale peizo equipped mahogany RG7 with a flip-flop finish, and the other's an 8-string - in fact, he was either second or third in the Ibanez roster to be given (not loaned) an 8, after the guys from Meshuggah and possible after Dino. That's hardly being treated "like crap." He went to Dean simply because they'd let him modify their body designs - theirs was a less established design than the RG, which I suspect had a lot to do with their decision.

3.) Really? I've seen seven or eight videos that suggest otherwise, and then there's that 27" scale custom Ibanez he (still) has...

4.) I've never heard that "fusion" players prefer rosewood while everyone else doesn't, and either way you're failing to account for Satriani, who's sort of a sped up blues rock guy. And again, he may be "given" guitars, but he also got to spec his signature line however he wanted, and the vast majority of them came with rosewood. Could it be that Joe genuinely likes the stuff? Nah.... For the record, I personally prefer maple, but am indifferent between ebony and rosewood.

5.) Please don't confuse me with my President. I didn't elect him, and I'm just as embarrassed for him as you are.

6.) Again, I've done everything within my power and then some to reverse the affront on our civil liberties that represents the current state of affairs in America, and I find your insinuation to the contrary slightly offensive. And I don't recall a constitutional right to post whatever nonsense you want to an internet discussion board beign present in international law, either - it's within Glen's and the moderators' rights to, well, moderate the content of these forums how they see fit. "Freedom of speech" only really exists on your own website, which I suggest you return to.

[jemsite]

rivera213 banned from thread for trolling.

[jim777]

Originally Posted by jemsite

rivera213 banned from thread for trolling.

That's nicer than I'd have been