2 uv777pbk s, should i seek help? - therapy

[1 1 Dragon 2 2 2]

i have 1 uv777pbk; i'm now seriously considering
getting another one. the one i have would be
workhorse, the other in the vault as much as possible.
so this would give me 1 well equiped mex strat,
2 uv777pbk s, and 1 gibson sg standard.

do you think i'm being reasonable? i don't think this
is GAS; fender and gibson offer what? to live off
a line that has been around as many times as aphrodite
is a bit pathetic.

[Christopher Chen]

Nah there's nothing wrong with you man, you're perfectly fine. When concerning Jems/UVs/Js' with graphics of course (LOL) , there ain't nothing wrong with getting a few more!
I think there's a guy on the forum with 2 florals!

Well if it were me, I'd customise the workhorse UV777BK, like add in a new coloured pickguard, new knobs, different pickups...etc. See what kind of possibilities you can get!

Chris.

[1 1 Dragon 2 2 2]

well see that's just the thing that may really be wrong.
i've been contemplating what would be involved
with having the workhorse uv swirled. i think
it is worth of the cost assuming it were blank. i'm
researching what is involved with taking a factory
uv to a swirled result. my initial naive thinking
is that this could get expensive.

[darren wilson]

We've discussed the "collector" issue here a number of times, but i'll chime in briefly with my view on it.

Buying a guitar to store in a "vault" is, in my opinion, an unwise investment. There's no guarantee at all that any musical instrument will appreciate over time. We obviously have a strong emotional attachment to our guitars, and being able to pull a mint UV777 out of its case in 20 years will no doubt have great impact. Whether it's worth more then than it is now depends on a lot of variables you just can't predict, like scarcity and desirability.

If it's monetary return on investment you're looking for, you're better off putting your cash into mutual funds, a term deposit or bonds for 20 years. Compound interest is a wonderful thing. If you go that route, you'll likely have enough to buy SEVERAL mint UV777's down the road.

[darren wilson]

Quote: from 1 1 Dragon 2 2 2 on 11:00 am on Jan. 17, 2001

i'm researching what is involved with taking a factory
uv to a swirled result.

If you want to get your UV swirled, you're probably better off keeping your factory body as it is and getting a replacement body from Custom Guitar Wares and having that swirled. That way, you can return it to its factory state down the road if you want to sell it.

[bob oakman]

Though it is unlikely, because of high production numbers, that the UV777PBK will ever reach collector status, it is such a nice axe that it warrants keeping one nice. Mine is special to me and it kind of hurts me to be using it as my main guitar. I’m wearing that sucker out. If I had the liquid cash, I would be doing exactly as you are considering.

In fact, I will be doing it… somehow. It may be an MC, if I can find one, or a 2027. More is better around here. There are many examples of outright sinful guitar acquisition stories on the forum. You should feel right at home.

[Rich]

Darren, you're describing 'speculators' not 'collectors'. Collectors are only interested in owning the 'object' with little care as to how it fares in resale value next week or in 20 years. It's the owning/enjoying that keeps collectors buying (with just a touch of psychosis in some cases!) :biggrin:

[jemsite]

i have 1 uv777pbk; i'm now seriously considering getting another one. the one i have would be workhorse, the other in the vault as much as ossible.

I highly recommend AGAINST this. Especially when the UV77BK is widely available in production. Put that $$$ into a short term CD or other solid investment and reevaluate when the time comes or UV777BK is discontinued. There is no crime in playing a guitar but IMHO it is an absolute shame to let a UV777BK sit unused. The UV777BK is the ultimate "player" UV... glen

[1 1 Dragon 2 2 2]

AHH!! what ? man i need to watch my semantics.
thanks bob, chris, darren, jemsite, and rich for
replying.

no collector here; for myself, the uv777pbk
is one of the best guitars for the price on the planet.
this being said, of course i want 2 of them for many
reasons. by the vault i intended to mean
not used gigging and only used in recording
and in luring beautiful women. sorry
for any misinterpretation.
my problem with subject titles is
i joke thru them since these types of decisions
for myself tend to be a bit straining.

i'll be more careful folks

[1 1 Dragon 2 2 2]

i suppose i am though acting thru a bit of fear
that if i allocate that part of the budget towards
other things, and just have 1 uv777pbk
that i'll be unable to find a new one say 2 years
from now. i know you may appreciate this type
of thing though; to look at so many brilliant ibanez guitars (in the fantastic gallery)
that are now very difficult for myself to find at
a reasonable price *is pretty frightening. i'm also
pretty edgy wrt parts/repair as necessary in the future.
getting a new neck for instance or having the neck
refretted in a few years. instruments like this
can cause a bit of paranoia i suppose.

[Jimi D]

I partly agree with Glen - guitars deserve to be played. I really hate the "Vintage Police" that inhabit some forums jumping down your throat for every little mod ("Do you know what you're doing to the resale value?!?" - groan)... *of course, he's mistaken about one thing; the UV777GR is the ultimate player Universe... the BK's a close second, tho' :biggrin: *

...at any rate, I would recommend getting an MC or maybe an RG2027 Prestige, or even a 777GR if you can find one (though if you are to judge by my wife's reaction, the GR will have the girls laughing, not swooning :-) - in my experience, it's more fun to have guitars that are slightly different than two exactly the same, even if the differences are predominantly cosmetic, but that's just me

I'd be interested in learning what you find out about the costs/considerations involved in a swirl job - I've been contemplating having my GR swirled (no crime as it's well played, anyway)

[johncowan]

Another comment on the 'fearing there won't be a new one around'. *It took me six months to learn that there will always be another one around....especially with a guitar with a long production run. *There are a few exceptions to this rule, like limited runs or individual finishes (e.g. swirls) where you may really wan't that particular guitar. *

So basically...what Glen said...throw the money in a mutual fund and treat yourself to two or three of them in 10 years. I also like the suggestion of buying a different model for a little variety. *

I guess the bottom line is it's your money to do with as you please. *

[1 1 Dragon 2 2 2]

On the Swirl: Darren the swirling mastermind has
replied no extra charge will be incurred as long
as there are no major body repairs to perform. The
swirl goes right over the original finish. It will take
about 8-10 weeks. Possibly sooner if I sent it immediately,
but given that I'm still working towards which guitar
to send that's unlikely. The sound should
only be effected in being warmed up a bit. For the next
week or two while I decide I'll doing exploration on what
colors to use.

[darren wilson]

Personally, i wouldn't swirl over a UV777PBK body, because you'd lose that lovely binding and pyramid inlay.

[Doink]

I sure wouldn't swirl a 777BK! If you really want to swirl something, I'd suggest an old UV7BK or get it custom made. You'd probly be looking between $1500 and $2000 to get something made from Harpers or CGW. Someone on the forum recently listed everything you'd need and the prices for a custom JEM, and I think it was $1500 someodd swirled.
Or if you're open to other non swirled options, any older UV is great as well as the RG 7620 and 2027 Prestige.
You could turn any of those into your workhorse, and you could lock away your current 777BK.
You have many options, but like everyone else has said, you're better off putting your money into mutual funds or stocks, and the 777 probly won't give you as high of a return.