2005 'Bad Horsie' and fixed-bridge model (confirmed by Vai)

[Rich]

Originally Posted by jem7vwh

Who said this guitar would cost $3000? I'd be stunned if it was listed at much more than the DBK. It seems clear that it is the entry level JEM (no inlay).

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Both Glen and I

[dex]

Originally Posted by jem7vwh

Who said this guitar would cost $3000? I'd be stunned if it was listed at much more than the DBK. It seems clear that it is the entry level JEM (no inlay).

That's what any sane person would think but those in the know say that the price is above 7V.

Originally Posted by jem7vwh

Here you have a great looking guitar at a reasonable price

Great looking guitar??........It's an RG with 2 pickuards, one on the whole guitar and one actual pickguard.
This must be the most overpriced "pimp" looking guitar I've ever seen.
Just to re-cap, no matching headstock, no nice inlays (and at this price point NO inlays would have been much, much better than dots), front routed, matt black finish apart from the top - and you get all of that for the bargain price of around $3000.
And some of you are still excited about it..........

One thing I have to say - J Customs look more and more apealing by the second - and at 1/2 of the price.

ilia

[jem7vwh]

If the guitar really does end up with a $2500 list, that's retarded. I don't expect anyone to buy one at that price. It's a cool idea, but not that cool.

I remember when the HAM90 came out, they sat and sat in stores because Ibanez missed the price. If these really are $2500, I'd expect them to go for $1999 at Guitar Center, in which case they should sell about none.

I still like the idea. It's a non-conventional look. But with no inlay and nothing really new (sustainer, double edge, etc), I can't imagine it selling then.

I had heard it was a replacement for the DBK, not the DNA.

[Rich]

I had thought it was replacing the DBK, but it's not. And you're still far short of the mark

[dex]

Just to clarify - all I'm complaining about here is the price.
At $1730 list this looks OK as this is slightly moded RG2550/RG2620 amalgamation (the 2620 has a top and binding, the 2550 has everything else including the mirror pickguard) but asking more than the 7V is just plain stupid.

Not to mention that getting a real classy and relatively inexpensive DBK replacement right now is a great idea to promote the jem line a bit further so it could give more press to the possible Jem 20th coming out next year.
As things stand now............I officialy join Glen's *Ibanez have lost it* camp..

ilia

[acoustic1991]

Originally Posted by learningtolive

Interesting that people are unhappy with the price - the one on ebay is £1650 whereas a new 7V would cost you around £1699 at the cheapest here in merry England. Of course, that price doesn't really have a bearing on the final RRP because it is on ebay, but you would think the seller would try and catch this hype and list it for higher to make a tidy profit. Maybe they don't realise what a buzz this guitar is making in forums like this...

Remember some of us are talking about 3000 USD. So, 1650 GBP = 3193.90 USD.
And, I would guess the price already includes a profit!
Josh

[jem7vwh]

Originally Posted by Rich

I had thought it was replacing the DBK, but it's not. And you're still far short of the mark

I realize that the list will be higher, but the JEM7VWH is listed at nearly $2500 and I saw one stickered at $1499 with case this weekend.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by jem7vwh

I realize that the list will be higher, but the JEM7VWH is listed at nearly $2500 and I saw one stickered at $1499 with case this weekend.

The VWH w/case lists at $2829.98

[Whey]

rich likes the correct specs

[jem7vwh]

Originally Posted by Rich

The VWH w/case lists at $2829.98

Great, but it was still stickered at $1499 at the Guitar Center on I-45 in Houston on Saturday. That means what you already know, that list price doesn't mean a whole lot anyway.

So if the VWH w/case lists at $2829.98 (a ridiculous sum of money, regardless of how much I love that guitar), then why should I not expect to see similar pricing tactics on the chrome one?

The VWH example sets the "street" price, before haggling, at just over half of the list price. If I were to guess a list price of $3000 on the new one, that same principle would put it the "street" price between $1500 and $1600 with no case. Still way too much, but not the princely sum of $3g

[jemsite]

Reality check... that guitar is being sold at or below dealer cost. I'd double-check if it's not a 2002 closeout or something w/ lopro? Noone can stay in business selling guitars like that.

Either way the mirror jem will cost more than the VSBL as stated above and barring a close-out deal will be closer to $2k with case/tax if not more... glen

[jem7vwh]

Originally Posted by jemsite

Reality check... that guitar is being sold at or below dealer cost. I'd double-check if it's not a 2002 closeout or something w/ lopro? Noone can stay in business selling guitars like that.

Either way the mirror jem will cost more than the VSBL as stated above and barring a close-out deal will be closer to $2k with case/tax if not more... glen

FWIW, I did play the guitar. It was an 04 (based on the serial number). And it had the new bridge. It was guitar center, so maybe they have better prices from Ibanez than your average mom and pop store?

I bought my VWH for $1299 from them a few years back. Ibanez has arbitrarily inflated the list price over the years for the same guitar (minus the ebony lately), but I don't imagine Guitar Center would routinely sell their high end models below cost. This price wasn't a haggled price, this was a stickered regular price. They weren't even having one of their advertised "sales".

But it's sad that the mirrored jem will be priced so highly. I was considering one when I thought they'd be priced reasonably in the dbk range.

[johncowan]

Ibanez Innovation = no new pickups, no tweaks, stock neck pull, special finish, price increase. Do I see a pattern here?

Oh wait, someone tell me the fret board is Pau Ferro

Sorry Ibanez, I love the JEM and VAI, but I'll pass on this one.

[jemsite]

That price is even unrealistic if you were to go by the old LIST prior to the increase this summer ($2400 + $170 = $2570-ish LIST). Granted GC has a bit of buying power, but even in '99 that was unrealistic pricing in the USA (unless the store didn't mind getting no revenue on the sale)... glen

[Rich]

GC has run most of the mom and pops out of business so they could charge more, not less. Maybe you should visit the "laughs at a recent trip to guitar center" thread for for examples of the lunacy that exists in many stores