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08-25-2004, 03:31 AM
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well, I'm sure that the BH will be basswood and have all the specs as the DBK more or less, but I seriously doubt that it's going to have the same price tag...I'm with Andelusion on that one, if it's not the same price as the 7v's then it'll be more expensive. But I would say that I like the binding. You hardly ever see this kind of guitar...I mean, a floyd
equipped guitar
like this, you just never see it, not even on a Jackson. I like how it transitions the mirror to the black because if it wasn't there it would look rather cheap. But that's just my opinion. As far as inlays go, once again...you all have some very good points. It's been ages since a pyramid inlay guitar has been released, and that would be nice to see, but glow in the dark dots would be another logical choice for Ibanez to have the same sort of effect. In fact, that makes a LOT of sense. As far as what Petie said, the reason they don't make any plain Jems is because the Jem line is known for being downright ODD. I mean...who else played guitars as bright as the 777's or had a floral print? Where have you ever seen a paint swirl on a guitar like a PMC, DNA or a UVMC? Who have you ever seen with a white and gold guitar (OK, Dave Navarro has a white PRS but that doesn't count...)? Steve is an odd guy, his music is weird and outlandish and his guitars were made to match it. That's why a plain colored Jem just isn't as cool as something wild. Although I wouldn't complain about the pricing being between the RG1550 and the DBK at all. All considered, you're paying for the name on the guitar rather than the guitar itself. If that wasn't true, everyone would get an RG and cut a handle in it. But then again, I'd pay that much for my favorite guitarist's
signature guitar
...especially with something as exclusive as a mirror finish. But I still say it's going to be darn expensive.
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08-25-2004, 11:15 AM
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That guitar NEEDS to come out with crhomed pickups (ala jem10) and chromed metal tone and volume controls. A mathing mirrored headstock its also a must.
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08-25-2004, 11:17 AM
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I meant "matching coloured headstock is also a must"
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08-26-2004, 11:04 PM
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Well, it's plainly clear that RCB shouldn't buy one if it comes out, since he doesn't seem to like a goddamn thing about it. But hey...it's a forum....
I am simply crossing my fingers to the point of breaking them that this is not gonna be another joke on us all. I was so damn excited when the Astoria commentary mentioned this coming out soon, only to find out it was delayed. (And I understand...I really do, that things happen.)
Regardless of price, i will be there and buy one if it comes out. If it has LEDs, great...prolly won't. Prolly won't have a sustainer either. But the great thing is that between now and NAMM, it may get altered. It may have different inlays. It may have ebony. Who knows? lol...
Whatever the deal is, I'm sure Ibanez will suffer another 12049235 percent price increase as a result of more toilet paper being needed in the offices taking the orders and factory workers needing more butter for their biscuits at lunch time. This will lovingly be passed on to fools like me who want the guitar...
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08-27-2004, 12:24 AM
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Great. Now not only you can be sure that your pickguard will eventually crack (and a new one is $120), but scratches on the finish will be a lot more visible, too.
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08-27-2004, 03:04 AM
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ha! I sure hear you on that one. I guess everyon has given up the hope of it being back routed and having a clear pickguard. Well, all considered, isn't that how all Jems are? Or was that only on the ones with crazy finishes like the FP or DNA. Never seen a 7VWH in person, I would kinda hope it was back routed but I guess it's not. Well, more money for Ibanez. Jerks.
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08-27-2004, 11:06 AM
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Well, it's plainly clear that RCB shouldn't buy one if it comes out, since he doesn't seem to like a goddamn thing about it. But hey...it's a forum....
Well, since the guitar hasnt come out yet I really cant say that I like it or dislike it. The features and specs are yet to be determined. Body wood,
fingerboard wood
, inlays, pup colours, pup model, etc, etc. Besides, you have to see the guitar in person to decide if you are going to buy it or not.
Of the model that Steve owns I just dont like the pearloid binding (may be another type of binding since I agree with the observation that screamjem7 made). Pearloid just doesnt seem to fit well there.
IMHO, leds would make the guitar look like a toy.
BTW, if I like the final product I will eventually buyt, though not brand new
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08-27-2004, 11:09 AM
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I hate my keyboard....buyt = buy it
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i think making the BH rear routed would make the sustainer system alot easier to deal with (if there is gonna be one) altough i seriously doubt that there is gonna be one because 1) it'll limit the potential market and 2) they won't be able to sell the sustainer equipped any more than the one with 2 Hums. that's just my reasoning. I would definitly like to see pyramids on this...and matching headstock will just make me go nuts...and i hope steve notices the problem with edge pro's studs that he demands them to be improved...
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08-27-2004, 05:09 PM
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Well, it's plainly clear that RCB shouldn't buy one if it comes out, since he doesn't seem to like a goddamn thing about it. But hey...it's a forum....
Well, since the guitar hasnt come out yet I really cant say that I like it or dislike it. The features and specs are yet to be determined. Body wood, fingerboard wood, inlays, pup colours, pup model, etc, etc. Besides, you have to see the guitar in person to decide if you are going to buy it or not.
Of the model that Steve owns I just dont like the pearloid binding (may be another type of binding since I agree with the observation that screamjem7 made). Pearloid just doesnt seem to fit well there.
IMHO, leds would make the guitar look like a toy.
BTW, if I like the final product I will eventually buyt, though not brand new
I see now...
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08-27-2004, 05:14 PM
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I suppose my main concern is the bridge...I've not gotten into any of the new bridges. I haven't bought a single guitar that had the new bridgees...
I'd so be happy if it came with the Lo-
Pro Edge
like Steve's does. I've yet to even see Steve use a new bridge on his guitars, other than posing in the catalog for it.
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the 2003 & 2004 JEMs all have the new trems (and accompanying new body trem routing)... why would anyone expect the 2005 to revert back? ...glen
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I've yet to even see Steve use a new bridge on his guitars, other than posing in the catalog for it.
Steve Vai
- '03 or '04 Jem7VSBL -
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- Definitely being used, not just a pose.
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08-28-2004, 03:31 AM
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Definitely being used, look at the "Konx" tape
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08-28-2004, 03:40 AM
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well, you make a very good point there, the picture doesn't lie. But he could have had the bridge swapped before the show. Otherwise, I doubt he'd mess with a minor problem like that for a show he wouldn't be playing more than an hour at. I mean really, you can still PLAY with non
locking studs
, right? And no, they wouldn't be switched to locking because Ibanez is too cheap for that. It's going to bite them in their butts later on, as Rich pointes out, but they do work, and I doubt Steve would have much say on that. Jem7V's and the rest of them have non-locking studs.
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