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Old 11-20-2002, 07:57 AM
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BFP vs. UVMC, what would you do?


Hi everybody!

I need your advice:

I own a UV Multicolor (made in ī91, I think). And now I was offered a BFP for quite a good price. I already had a BFP a few years but sold it for some stupid reasons. I really love the BFPīs.

Now, I donīt know what to do: shall I sell my UVMC to get the BFP?
The UVMCs become more and more expensive. But so do the BFP?
Or should I wait some time to get the money together and even keep my UVMC?
Letīs say I only can affort one of both. What would be the bigger "mistake"? Sell the UVMC, or not to buy the BFP?

Another problem is that I donīt really need any further guitars, and Iīve spent so much money (UVMC and JEM 10th) in the last months!
But as many guys here in the forum say, JEMs are quite addictive!
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Old 11-20-2002, 09:48 AM
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If the BFP is a good price and good condition, grab it.

There's always a market for them and you'll easeily be able to sell it if you think better of it (maybe even at a profit!)

~Kenny
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Old 11-20-2002, 11:52 AM
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Is the UV an ATD or a Jap MKR swirl?
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Old 11-20-2002, 01:22 PM
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Tough decision. I'm going through this myself regarding my UV77MC and DNA. The UV is a no brainer... I don't play seven string guitars, probably never will, so it's history. I just picked up an older Jem, so I can imagine what the BFP must be like, especially with the direct mounted pups. In fact, I'm starting to prefer the older Jems. I say if you got the cash and the price is reasonable... GRAB IT!!!
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Old 11-20-2002, 02:13 PM
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@ kennydoe: Yes, thats a good point you mentioned! I will always be able to resell the BFP in case I donīt like it....(but I donīt think so!)

By the way, the guitar costs 750 euros, including case.
Well, it has been played a lot, but as far as I can remember, there were no dings. Even so smaller ones! So I would say the finish is okay, but the tremolo shows lots of wear. Quite rusty and so on. And most screws were rusty too, but with some time and some little extra money, the guitar could be turned into good condition.
And there is to say, that it would probably become my players axe, so condition is not that important! So what do you think about the price? Remember, Iīm from Europe, and you probably know the price differences to the USA!


@wallopwallop: Sorry, but what do you mean with ATD or MKR? Never heard that!


@rvj: Thats the point! I also donīt play the UVMC very much! I bought it, because it was good priced, good looking and is quite rare.
What do you mean with direct mounted pickups? Are there any JEMs that have direct mounted pickups?
What do you say about the price?
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Old 11-20-2002, 05:13 PM
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I would take an MC (ATD - Darren, About Time Designs) over a BFP

but

I would take a BFP over an MC (MKR - Japanese Swirl)
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Old 11-20-2002, 08:42 PM
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Hm, I still canīt imagine what ATD or MKR is!?

Whatīs the difference, and how can I check out if mine is a ATD or a MKR? Are different colors used? Or is it different quality?

And what do you think about the price of the BFP?
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Old 11-20-2002, 09:02 PM
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Compare them here
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Old 11-20-2002, 09:13 PM
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MKR's are referred to by their colors (mustard, ketchup, relish)
ATD's are much nicer swirls and have black, pink, green, and yellow.
Price is also a factor with ATD's selling for much, much more $$$.
I don't know the U.S./Euro conversion, so I can't be of much help there.
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Old 11-20-2002, 09:14 PM
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Sorry, double post.
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Old 11-20-2002, 09:38 PM
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1 euro = 1 dollar
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Old 11-20-2002, 09:40 PM
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If that was true 2500E wouldn't have cost me $2600 today
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Old 11-20-2002, 09:47 PM
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1 euro = 1 dollar
A BFP in any condition for $750 (or Euros) is a good price.

Grab it. I know at least half-a-dozen people who would buy it from you for more than that.

For the hardware, buy an RG with a good-condition Edge trem on it and swap 'em out, put the rusty crap in the RG and sell it - even if you get half of what you paid for it, it's still cheaper than buying new hardware.

I put gold hardware on my BFP and it looks amazing.

Rusty screws are easy - Kevan taught me a good trick - take all the screws out, screw them into a piece of cardboard and paint the heads with glossy black nail polish. in 30 minutes, they look good as new!

~K
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Old 11-20-2002, 10:33 PM
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Rusty screws are easy - Kevan taught me a good trick - take all the screws out, screw them into a piece of cardboard and paint the heads with glossy black nail polish. in 30 minutes, they look good as new!~K
Good tip... you can also loosen the screw 2/3 out and simply use a black SHARPIE marker.... works like a charm and dries fast ...glen
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Old 11-20-2002, 10:40 PM
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Glen, I thought that was one of my tricks ;-)
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