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Old 11-30-2012, 04:30 PM
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Re: Current Market Values for a 1987 JEM777 LNG


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There was nothing prize about either of them.


The seller had CL adds linking over to Ebay.
The add for the PBK said it was mint.

MINT! - when it was new, not now!
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Old 11-30-2012, 08:04 PM
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Re: Current Market Values for a 1987 JEM777 LNG


Pristine on ebay of course.

I think the price was pretty average for guitars, cases, packages in that condition. If the rest of the package was better they would have been higher. No doubt Stratman could come in and support this with the last 10 years of PBK sales data

He offered them to me before he listed them and could have bought them for a hair less than they sold for, if they were better I would have bought them, but not for that price, and especially with the risk of coming from a guy that doesn't play guitar and "tech" that cleaned them for sale that said there was nothing wrong with them, which means no doubt one has bad scarf joint shrinkage and both have loose anchors, and just got purdy'd up to shift.
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Old 11-30-2012, 08:36 PM
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Re: Current Market Values for a 1987 JEM777 LNG


Does that mean all early JEMs are garbage with pocket cracks and loose anchors. What is scarf joint shrikage? I thought they both looked in good shape. The PBK though had the busted lock on the case. Did someone break into it for some reason? At least they both had a number of pics to base a decsion on. I buy to play, not collect (unless there is a 1/2 billion dollar Powerball in my future). Therefore no $3600 VSK in my future. Also no $2-3k florals either. The only JEM you'll see for $1000 or less is the DBK.
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Re: Current Market Values for a 1987 JEM777 LNG


Garbage would be a blasphemous word, slap yourself immediately.

All early Jems are 20+ year old basswood guitars using scarf joint neck construction which probably have something wrong somewhere unless somebody that actually knows guitars has kept it in real playing condition.

Matt King was down last week with his JS I sold him 13 years ago, has been regularly maintained, and pretty well, but it wouldn't stay in tune, because it had loose inserts. Not WAY loose like these 20 year old guitars get, but any loose means some instability. 1/2 hour fix, but they have to be fixed.

Anyway, old guitars usually come with old guitar problems.

Both cases had been broken into, the PBK's lock assembly removed and the wood bar over broken out. That case was junk or I would have been more interested in that guitar.
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Old 11-30-2012, 08:53 PM
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BTW Matt's 1000WH has about 7000 dings on it, mostly around the bottom edge, just got some fresh chrome hardware on it, and looked just killer. That's my idea of a cool player, kinda like a rat rod!
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Old 11-30-2012, 09:19 PM
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Re: Current Market Values for a 1987 JEM777 LNG


Slapped once on each cheek. WHAP WHAP! Is the scarf joint where the headstock meets the neck? If so is that why you see some older Ibanez necks with separating fretboards at the nut because of shrinkage? Just trying to understand my guitars better. I've had a number of early 90's Ibanez ( 5 and 7 series and USA Customs) and never had any stability problems as long as the set-ups were well done. I would guess a lot has to do with the guitars environments over the years as well. Storage, temp and humidity.
Those case locks are not that difficult to defeat. Really no reason to rip them out like that. Red flag for sure.
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Re: Current Market Values for a 1987 JEM777 LNG


Fretboard delam is just another old guitar issue that like any guitar, can have no scarf shrinkage or a lot of shrinkage.
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Old 12-01-2012, 07:54 AM
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Re: Current Market Values for a 1987 JEM777 LNG


The VDY someone else is talking about was pretty rough, but I thought the PBK was pretty clean. It's a black guitar and those very often don't show well when not really prepped to sell. From what I saw, the hardware was very clean and there was almost no wear on the neck plate. The body was free of any really major chips. The case was unfortunate, but I think the guitar would have cleaned up very nicely.

I can recall only one PBK on eBay in the US the last few years and it was being sold by that vintagevalueguitars guy who sells for pretty high values. It was a nicer guitar and in a clean case, but he got $2600 for it and it didn't sit out there super long (less than a month if I recall).

The only guitar I've had with significant scarf joint shrinkage is my '91 FP. I wonder if it has anything to do with the oil finished necks? Perhaps the clear finish on most of the necks keeps them from drying out and shrinking to some extent?
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Re: Current Market Values for a 1987 JEM777 LNG


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The VDY someone else is talking about was pretty rough, but I thought the PBK was pretty clean. It's a black guitar and those very often don't show well when not really prepped to sell. From what I saw, the hardware was very clean and there was almost no wear on the neck plate. The body was free of any really major chips. The case was unfortunate, but I think the guitar would have cleaned up very nicely.

I can recall only one PBK on eBay in the US the last few years and it was being sold by that vintagevalueguitars guy who sells for pretty high values. It was a nicer guitar and in a clean case, but he got $2600 for it and it didn't sit out there super long (less than a month if I recall).

The only guitar I've had with significant scarf joint shrinkage is my '91 FP. I wonder if it has anything to do with the oil finished necks? Perhaps the clear finish on most of the necks keeps them from drying out and shrinking to some extent?
I think there's some real validity to this........ It's worth looking in to at least.
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Re: Current Market Values for a 1987 JEM777 LNG


If only I could find a reasonable BFP... THAT'S the JEM for me...
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Re: Current Market Values for a 1987 JEM777 LNG


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The VDY someone else is talking about was pretty rough, but I thought the PBK was pretty clean. It's a black guitar and those very often don't show well when not really prepped to sell. From what I saw, the hardware was very clean and there was almost no wear on the neck plate. The body was free of any really major chips. The case was unfortunate, but I think the guitar would have cleaned up very nicely.

I can recall only one PBK on eBay in the US the last few years and it was being sold by that vintagevalueguitars guy who sells for pretty high values. It was a nicer guitar and in a clean case, but he got $2600 for it and it didn't sit out there super long (less than a month if I recall).

The only guitar I've had with significant scarf joint shrinkage is my '91 FP. I wonder if it has anything to do with the oil finished necks? Perhaps the clear finish on most of the necks keeps them from drying out and shrinking to some extent?
The PBK had a nasty locking nut crack on the side which almost ran the whole width of the neck, I was bidding on it until I saw this, looked horrible.

I know its common, but it turned me off


I wouldn't be bothered if it was smaller... but yeah.
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Old 12-01-2012, 06:02 PM
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Re: Current Market Values for a 1987 JEM777 LNG


Not really sure what you're looking at? I don't see any cracks, only something that looks like a drip that slightly discolored the wood.
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Re: Current Market Values for a 1987 JEM777 LNG


My local pawn shop had a BFP sitting on the rack for at least three years. They were asking $850 for it. I thought it was hideous. I finally came to my senses and of course it was gone.



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If only I could find a reasonable BFP... THAT'S the JEM for me...
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Old 12-01-2012, 10:32 PM
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Re: Current Market Values for a 1987 JEM777 LNG


one of the guitar shop in my country selling jem777LNG for $2850 sitting for 2 yrs then reduce to $1950 and still sitting for one yrs till now not selling,including jem77bmr and UV777bk....the one that is selling well is jem7vwh and FP
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Old 12-01-2012, 10:38 PM
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Re: Current Market Values for a 1987 JEM777 LNG


if the used price in players condition is closed to buying new jem then might as well top up a bit buy a new jem
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