JEM/RG Chroming service on ebay, UK

[littlejohnieskint]

Thank you Jammy!!.. Im getting flabberghasted! Is anyone interested in a nice cheap way to make their guitars look like the rg and Jem in my ads.. if so the price is £120 and it looks stunning.. dont believe me then look at the pics.. mylar chrome?! , mirror paint?, nickel plating.. off to see the wizard of oz for a wave of his magic chrome wand!! I dont care.. your guitar is of upmost importance to me and if you like the way the examples look then please feel free to let me do the work.. If you feel they look tacky or cheap then please puke and never ever deal with me... I saw Steves guitar at the Astoria in person and could not close my jaw!.. on close inspection the Bad Horsie guitar is crazed around the curled heel but I still love her... Luckily chrome paint, mylar , or nickels melted down and poured over the body or whatever it is I do looks better than Steves Im happy that you will be pleased as punch! check my feedback.. it never lies..

[Kontalonis]

can you please explain how the js10th is "yellow"?

[Rich]

ANd then answer the "vacuum" question I asked.

[Jammy]

make sense I suppose. The auctual amount of air within a piece of wood must be neglagable though? One would think?

[Rich]

Not according to the guys that actually do it, and if you think about it there's probably air trapped on the microscopic level between every fiber of the wood.

[Jammy]

Indeed, but if its "trapped" that wouldnt be a problem - but Im just knit picking now aren't I? :P

I cant imagine it "seaping" for too long though - expose anything to a vaccume for an hour or so (pumped of course) and you could just about guarentee all the air is out of there. What do they do once the vaccume has been achieved?

[littlejohnieskint]

Cheers Rich.. Im glad we are now getting on as I admire your work so much... your right mate.. last week I had a guitar body sent to me for chroming and spraying and although it looked normal once I had primered her and then sprayed her black and put her in the oven all became apperant.!!! I left the guitar body on slow bake as usual for 12 hours and come down in the morning to find the body looking like the skin of a victim from V !!! it had bubbled completely and I had to redo it again before realising that this "Alder Jem Body with Monkey Grip and Lions Claw" was actually some cheapo Ebay job made of MDF or Cardboard! .
The layered paper body had so many air cavities in her that it had to be left for 48 hours to cure in a vacuum tank to stop dust. Im sure you Rich have probably had to "revive" the odd Jem.. its easy when they are "Jems" but not so when they are not!

[Rich]

I'm not sure I'm following, maybe it's a language thing.

Above you mention "dipping" [chromium nitride bath] and vacuum [vacuum chroming usually used for chroming plastics and other solid substrates] pretty much in the same sentence.

Wood is composed [like humans] of a whole lotta water. When the water evaporates it of course leave the gases behind that are water [H and O]. Wood has allot of gasses in it. According to the vacuum platers I talked to they said flat out there was no way to get a true vacuum on wood, and that they had to achieve a true vacuum before they could introduce the gas [or whatever, they kinda lost me there] that actually laid the chrome onto the substrate.

[littlejohnieskint]

Rich.. get back to your football!... Guns, girls, guitars.com? u like the finish? yes? good your honest... no? your a ****. Thats the process.. clearly you have spent too many hours trying to do something im clearly good at.. ! You have gone from hero to zero Rich.. drop the science.. it clearly baffles you and look at the results.."my prices are high and i'm sure you could get them lower elsewhere" or You can probably surf hard and find these models cheaper somewhere else. There are many online...
lol! these are early quotes from your original website.. room full of chromeboys ?... Nice ! head full of junk? not so good.. its a shame Rich.. more so that all my postings will surely be removed from this site and no-one will know exactly what you are like but for a moment I will bask in glory and those that are not reached by your cancerous negative " I am God " opinion will never get over the day their Littlejohnieskint Chromed Jem arrives on their doorsteps.. If they play them live and the entire laquer falls off as in your fantasy then I will be there to re-finish.. if the guitar disolves in daylight then I will fully refund... can u say the same.. no you cant as you are too busy feeding your ego on the great Jemsite to look after your customers!.. get back to your football Rich.. Love an Ex fan

[Rich]

Did you just turn into the assho!e from hell? And for what reason?

GG and G are the worst butchers on the planet, and their finish sucks, just about as bad as your attitude. All my information comes from real plating companies, not guys working in their kitchens

[Rich]

And since obviously you're not aware GGandG do NICKEL bath plating only. And their finishes look like sh!t, their butchery of the bodies is inexcusable, and bottom line it's a flat out joke. And I'm a **** for knowing this?! Get a clue.

[littlejohnieskint]

Rich.. I dint mean to, but all you've done in your last three or four posts is try to ridicule me.. its like you never read my initial response. Im never nasty but I work my arse off fretting and worrying when I get a guitar in and though, ok , I dont want to give my chroming secrets away you seem to have gone out of your way to belittle everything I do. I know that the guitars I custon look great.. If they dont then I rebuild them till they do.. the last one fetched £1370 which was a £400 Jem 555bk. If I thought for one minute that everytime that person opened their guitar case they werent gobsmacked then I wouldnt bother.. right now I have a guy who has been waiting 4 days over the promised delivery date because the Leds are not sitting 100% perfect and I cannot sleep because of it... I have refunded him some of his money in the hope that he will spread the word and then I get a messege today to say hat I am being pulled apart on my greatest source of research.. Jemsite.. This sadens me and I miserely read the uneducated threads to then find that my all time hero Rich (and trust me you are...) is doing his upmost to make everything I say nonsense so that he can make his own knowledge look intense.
Rich.. I apologise for the attack in my last statement but I feel sore... You may not like what I do but i cannot believe that anyone can say the RG's and Jems I finish look poor, and when you spend as much time perfecting the laquer so that it does not "fall" off you too would be upset...

[Rich]

How many times do I have to say I could care less what you do?!

As far as ridicule, are you even reading?! YOU are the one that's written everything so confusing not me. You want to protect your "secrets" then fine, it aint like I don't know anything about chroming. I spent 8 months doing nothing but research in my spare time before spending $100k doing a limited run of real reissue JS2's, which I never did because the end result of all the research was, it wasn't possible. But you sure didn't have to turn into an arse, all I did was state what I was told by the MANY plating companies I talked to doing my research.

[littlejohnieskint]

Rich.. your not a **** for knowing anything.. you live in the states and so are clearly in a better position to comment on gg and g's work than me but I look at their Jpegs and think ok.. thats a good finish.. from the pics on their ad they look impressive and that is how my finishes look.. if they butcher then I step down and apologise.. til now though every chrome Jem dreamer has relied on them as their source of escapism!.. I can now help and the finish looks the same on the fully chromed models. From what you say maybe these are a few one offs and the majority is ****e.. but are they just being persecuted due to a falling out. all 40 or so jpegs look great and seeing as the 4 or 5 people slating my work on this forum have never seen it Im dubious to believe that these guys work is that poor.. Rich.. i have always admired you and apologise for going from nice guy to arsewipe in 30 seconds but I spend so much time making sure my customers get value for money it pisses me off when people judge work they have never seen.. sorry dude..

[Rich]

I can understand, and you and I are alike in that respect in allot of ways.

I bought a GG&G off ebay just to see the work in person. I had previously inspected one in a dark street, and it wasn't good. I took the plunge and bought one from somebody that had them do a JS for a project, and it was nothing but horrid. First, they overrout all the pockets and cavities [the butchering] to allow for the layer of chrome that gets there, when all they'd have to do is actually clean it up after the fact. They never plug the stud inserts which get filled with nickel so you can't put a stud in them. The nickel bath itself does enough distortion to the wood [in the 2 cases I personally inspected] and nickel is the low temp [about 110 degrees], not hard to understand what the chromium bath [about 180 degrees] does. Bottom line, GG&G should be avoided at all costs. They're idiots that know nothing about guitars, and that's not somebody I'd let work on a guitar.

And I'm not "judging" your work, I was just trying to UNDERSTAND what you were saying, because when you start talking about dipping and vacuum in the same sentence it's not making any sense to me.