My UV777BK problem :)

[Wadstein]

Ok... now comes my lame ass question :P

I have a problem with the guitar not staying in tune. I always have to open up the locking nuts and adjust with the tuners. Then after locking it, it sounds ok, a little out of tune. I adjust it with the fine tuners and then the trouble starts. The finetuners react to one and other. After using the finetuners on the EBGDAE strings it sounds good (= EBGDAE sounds good) but the low B is way out of tune. I adjust it with the finetuner, and then the EBGDAE gets out of tune! What should i do?

I just had it set-up so I guess thats not the problem...

well... thanks

[Rich]

First, your strings probably are not properly stretched.
Second, you're probably over-rotating the pads when you lock them down.
Third, your string tree may not be low enough.

[Wadstein]

Originally Posted by Rich

First, your strings probably are not properly stretched.
Second, you're probably over-rotating the pads when you lock them down.
Third, your string tree may not be low enough.

Thanks... The over-rotating the pads-thing is most likely true... I'l loosen them up.

[Rich]

You don't want them any looser [unless they're gorilla tight] but there's a trick to minimize the twist of the pad at the point of contact

[Dead Roman]

Originally Posted by Rich

You don't want them any looser [unless they're gorilla tight] but there's a trick to minimize the twist of the pad at the point of contact

Why would you say that and then not tell us the trick??

BS

C'mon bro

[Rich]

Cause I'm BUSY!!!

When it just makes contact, "jerk" it tight. It will minimize the spin on the pad if you do it right.

[Drew]

Hmm... thanks, rich, good point... I also try to stabalize it a bit with one of my fingers while tightening... this helps a bit too.

-Drew

[Petie]

Would I be correct in guessing you tune the B, then E, then A, then D, and so on, then find it's out of tune?

Tune up as close to perfect as you can with the nut unlocked, then clamp it and adjust the fine tuners randomly. You'll probably find, as I have, that if you do it one at a time from low to high in order, it'll make vitually no difference, all the strings will remain the same relative to each other. For instance, try tuning down a half-step using your fine tuners - doesn't work, does it?

For tuning purposes, you have to think of a floating bridge as a single unit where every part affects the others, not as six (or seven) separate saddles.

[Wadstein]

Originally Posted by Petie

Would I be correct in guessing you tune the B, then E, then A, then D, and so on, then find it's out of tune?

Tune up as close to perfect as you can with the nut unlocked, then clamp it and adjust the fine tuners randomly. You'll probably find, as I have, that if you do it one at a time from low to high in order, it'll make vitually no difference, all the strings will remain the same relative to each other. For instance, try tuning down a half-step using your fine tuners - doesn't work, does it?

For tuning purposes, you have to think of a floating bridge as a single unit where every part affects the others, not as six (or seven) separate saddles.

Thanks... I'll keep that in mind!
I watched one of Eric Johnson's tapes last night and found out he starts tuning from the G-string... I'll try that to!

[jpwannabe]

you can find the proper way to tune on the jemsite, in the tech setup area. I think your just not tuning it properly.

[Soderberg]

I think you have another problem but I dont know wich. When I tune my guitar I can do it however I feel that day. When I clamp it and adjust with the fine tuners it stays tune forever almost. It doesnt matter if I tune the A first or the D,E etc. If the guitar is correct you should be able to tune it in any order. My FP was the same and I think most of the JEMs are like that. I dont have the answer though. Just try to be exact and sort things out one by one.
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