Old Vs New production

rufes · #1 09-18-2007, 09:33 AM

What are the facts making some people state that old Ibanez (end 80s beg 90s) are better than new ones? I don't understand it....

Eco · #2 09-18-2007, 10:19 AM

Theres been quite a few posts around about it.

Alot of people consider the older trems like the Edge and Lo Pro Edge to be superior to the Edge pro currently available.

Same story with the old wizard profile compared to the new.

Ranz 777 · #3 09-18-2007, 10:45 AM

Eh..................
Ya like the old Chargers or the new? Old Camaros or new? Same difference

Lordiesel · #4 09-18-2007, 11:15 AM

are the older jems thinner profile to the new.... i have an '06... it is heaps fatter than my 570 original wizard necks but i thought most jems had the same profile as the the wizard 2

Eco · #5 09-18-2007, 11:20 AM

I'd say the differences are noticable but i wouldnt say either on was better or worse.

Its just preferance i guess.

Dee · #6 09-18-2007, 06:25 PM

I don't believe the old Ibanez is really better than new. On the other hand, the couple of RG's I've had from back in the day (1987 RG550 and 1990 RG750) were put together flawlessly. Unfortunately I can't say the same about the two more recent RG's I've had (2001 RG3120 Prestige and 2007 RG20th). Both have inferior neck pockets compared to the oldies. The RG20th paint isn't as well applied as the original 550, it's a little too thin like they were running short on paint, so you tend to notice this in the cavities. The RG3120 pocket was shocking. I could easily fit 2 business cards down there.

And on another hand still (yes, I have three hands!), I think the necks are better constructed nowadays, they are multi-piece, so less likely to warp.

The best playing RG I've owned is the 750, then the RG20th, the original 550, and the 3120 (the most expensive one when bought new) was worst of all.

andy7jem · #7 09-18-2007, 07:19 PM

Three hands

So......you can play the guitar and scratch your ass at the same time

(and believe me.......i cleaned that up a lot to what i was originally gonna put

)

Dee · #8 09-18-2007, 07:21 PM

LOL! Yeah. I can also w a n k mysel...

OOPS

*runs...

sniperfrommars1 · #9 09-18-2007, 07:42 PM

I think the necks have improved, obviously theirs another major transition point and i think dee will definitely agree on this.......the all access neck joint, lo-pro edge period. It was like playing a completely different instrument for me, and i think others probably feel the same.

Dee · #10 09-18-2007, 09:39 PM

Oh yeah, for me it was a pretty big difference in feel, but overall it still felt like I was playing an Ibanez RG. Gotta love the access to upper frets the AANJ gives, and the Lo-Pro is a wicked bridge. I'm just as happy on the old neck joint and original Edge, though. The Edge Pro doesn't interest me much.

For feel, Original Edge can't be beat, IMO. For looks it'd be the Lo-Pro.

Big Red · #11 09-18-2007, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy7jem

Three hands

So......you can play the guitar and scratch your ass at the same time

(and believe me.......i cleaned that up a lot to what i was originally gonna put

)

Did you mean to say "play piano and scratch your ass at the same time"?

sniperfrommars1 · #12 09-18-2007, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dee

Oh yeah, for me it was a pretty big difference in feel, but overall it still felt like I was playing an Ibanez RG. Gotta love the access to upper frets the AANJ gives, and the Lo-Pro is a wicked bridge. I'm just as happy on the old neck joint and original Edge, though. The Edge Pro doesn't interest me much.

For feel, Original Edge can't be beat, IMO. For looks it'd be the Lo-Pro.

Yeah i think they made solid improvements with both designs. I think their neck joints could get better. Their are fundamental manufacturing issues with both neck joints that cause some major problems, as im sure youve experienced. Still they are fixable issues for the most part.

**GilkyBear** · #13 09-19-2007, 03:54 AM

Yeah. same old argument. I guess it would be personal preference on some of the things, technology and advances in production techniques on others.

ibz_SA · #14 09-19-2007, 04:28 AM

answer to me is because of this
A. Looks, 777's look so much better then the jems on the market today(expect jem 20th)
B. The necks are thiner.

ibanezking · #15 09-19-2007, 04:38 AM

the one BIG improvement about the new ones is that some genius decided you don't need 2 humungous M4 screws through the neck to hold the locking nut down.........

The string pressure holds the lock nut down
All you need is a couple of small screws just to stop it moving side to side and to stop the fukr falling off when you take off the pressure(strings)!

Max