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Old 03-25-2005, 07:18 PM
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Perfect . . . but


My new refined jem, after getting a new one because of the other one having various problems, the whole guitar is set up to the recommended way under the tech setup on this site. Theres only one problem. After playing for about 2 minutes the whole guitar just goes flat, and won't stay in tune. Any suggestions, im about fed up with setting up these guitars and not knowing alot about them in the first place.
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Old 03-25-2005, 07:56 PM
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http://www.ibanezrules.com/tech/setup/stretch.htm
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Old 03-25-2005, 08:05 PM
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Is there a good way to set your string retaining bar without stripping the screws and without tuning everything down? I find it extremely difficult to turn.
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Old 03-25-2005, 08:09 PM
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Re: Perfect . . . but


better screwdrivers

just block the trem depressed to relieve tension on the retainer... glen
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Old 03-25-2005, 08:36 PM
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Ok thanks alot, but ive already had the strings stretched before all this, and it jsut keeps going flat, buggin me!!
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Old 03-25-2005, 08:41 PM
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Then they weren't stretched.
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Old 03-25-2005, 08:47 PM
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They are stretched, i bend the string radically, they don't go out of tune, as soon as i lock that nut down, get the thing in tune, because for some reason, even with the trem blocked, i can't get the string retainer bar screws to turn any more, unless i wanna make the screws unusuable. So now what, baaa!!!
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Old 03-25-2005, 09:25 PM
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Correction . . . I have stretched the strings, and they still go flat. I have blocked the trem, and the string retaining bar screws will not, no matter what, budge at all. This also leaves it to where when i lock the nuts, the strings go sharp.
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Old 03-25-2005, 11:02 PM
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Someone, please help me at least on just this issue. Are the screws in my string retainer post as far as they can go or messed u por what, theres room leeft, but i can't obtain it no matter what. What shall i do.
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Old 03-25-2005, 11:29 PM
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Maybe they are tight enough. (string retainer bar screws) It just has to touch the strings. This is not going to cause your guitar to go flat.
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Old 03-26-2005, 12:02 AM
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no, when i lock the nuts, (this has nothing to do with it going flat, they go sharp, and i can't get the bar to go lower.
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Old 03-26-2005, 07:43 AM
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I know exactly what you are going through. Those screws can be very hard to turn..............even harder with string pressure. Someone said it right earlier...................make sure you have the correct screw driver before you attempt to turn them. If you strip them...............good luck.............if you don't have the correct screwdriver......................just measure the amount the string goes sharp when locked. Unlock the guitar and tune it flat by the same amount. Relock the nut...................making sure the lock down pads don't twist slightly when locking. This is a common reason why the strings go sharp when locking. Use the allen key with the small end between your thumb and index finger and turn it thumb and finger tight. Hold the pad with your other hand to feel if it twists at all......................this should help a bit.
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Old 03-26-2005, 01:12 PM
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Alright thanks, at least i know someone was listening.
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Old 03-26-2005, 02:05 PM
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If your going to play a guitar with a floating trem you should really enjoy the tinkering that goes with it. If not your going to be prety unhappy with your guitar. Unless you have a tech on hand to do it for you.
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Old 03-26-2005, 02:29 PM
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Re: Perfect . . . but


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Alright thanks, at least i know someone was listening.
You are gonna have to come here with a much better attitude if you expect to get further help or information in the future. Trust me. I've been on this board since 97. Most of these guys are a WEALTH of knowledge & the crap you see on "other" guitar boards is NOT tolerated here. You will find Jemsite to be the most comprehensive & intelligent guitar boards around...without all the sh*ttalking.

Enjoy your stay, but please be considerate of the others who were at least trying to help you. Everyone was "listening", but sometimes it's a little more difficult to understand the problem from the confines of a computer.
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