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Old 10-30-2006, 02:59 PM
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PGM's vs. Jem


How is the quality of PGM guitars vs Jem guitars?
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Old 10-30-2006, 03:02 PM
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Pretty similar quality but different guitars, comes down to personal choice. Depends if you want a reverse headstock, a tremolo, and you have to decide which neck suits you the best!
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Old 10-30-2006, 03:04 PM
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I have both and they are of the same build quality. Just different.
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Old 10-30-2006, 03:13 PM
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You can't have realistically expected the quality to be wildly different, can you? After all, they do come from the same factory and all, so I'd imagine they'd be similar. Of course, I may be wrong. Stranger things have happened.
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Old 10-30-2006, 03:16 PM
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personally I would say this comparison would be a bit unfair. The JEM has quite a few more variables than the PGM but all and all I think the folks at Ibanez have got it down pretty well. I prefer the feel and functionality of a PGM over a JEM.
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Old 10-30-2006, 03:37 PM
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Good question. I have an '05 Jem7vwh and I'd love to get a PGM301 but of course there's none anywhere to try out! Maybe I'll just have to buy without ever touching one. That's how I bought my Jem and I wasn't disappointed.
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Old 10-30-2006, 04:18 PM
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Re: PGM's vs. Jem


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personally I would say this comparison would be a bit unfair. The JEM has quite a few more variables than the PGM but all and all I think the folks at Ibanez have got it down pretty well. I prefer the feel and functionality of a PGM over a JEM.
Well the PGM has had basswood, ash and mahogany bodies, 2 body shapes, Floyd type, vintage type and fixed bridges and a couple of body shapes! Normal and reverse headstocks, and a fair few pickup combinations.

So I think that there are at least as many variables to the PGM.

I'd take whichever is to hand
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Old 10-30-2006, 04:24 PM
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Yeah, but they are very hard to get and most of them were only released in Japan... unfortunately

I really like em both
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Old 10-30-2006, 04:27 PM
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Given that both are Japanese made signature guitars I'm amazed at the difference in price
In the UK a new Jem 7VWH is £1600 and a PGM301 is £700.
While different body and bridges account for a small amount of that difference I don't understand where the other £800 has gone. Any ideas anyone??
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Old 10-30-2006, 04:28 PM
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Well the PGM has had basswood, ash and mahogany bodies, 2 body shapes, Floyd type, vintage type and fixed bridges and a couple of body shapes! Normal and reverse headstocks, and a fair few pickup combinations.

So I think that there are at least as many variables to the PGM.

I'd take whichever is to hand
Based on current production models. : v )
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Old 10-30-2006, 04:55 PM
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Has Paul ever used the whammy, ive never seen him with a bar attatched to it.
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Old 10-30-2006, 05:14 PM
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Paul uses the whammy on the intro to Intense Rock. It's a kahler trem on his old purple (or pink) ibanez.
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Old 10-30-2006, 05:20 PM
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Right
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Old 10-30-2006, 05:23 PM
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You can't have realistically expected the quality to be wildly different, can you? After all, they do come from the same factory and all, so I'd imagine they'd be similar. Of course, I may be wrong. Stranger things have happened.
Exactly.

There's obviously bloopers as there are with any guitar manfacturer, but they're both 'Prestige' technically, so should be of the same quality.

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While different body and bridges account for a small amount of that difference I don't understand where the other £800 has gone. Any ideas anyone??
It's gone on the Vai association most probably

In all honesty the only things I can see costing more is the lo-pro/edge-pro and the very small cost of the extra material for the inlays, and time (lol) spent doing the body modifications. You do have to wonder why the 7vs are twice as much though..
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Old 10-30-2006, 05:26 PM
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Re: PGM's vs. Jem


I played a FP Jem in a shop in a city near me and the quality wasnt great, not as good as my 1550 anyway.
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