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10-30-2006, 02:59 PM
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PGM's vs. Jem
How is the quality of PGM guitars vs Jem guitars?
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10-30-2006, 03:02 PM
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Re: PGM's vs. Jem
Pretty similar quality but different guitars, comes down to personal choice. Depends if you want a
reverse headstock
, a tremolo, and you have to decide which neck suits you the best!
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10-30-2006, 03:04 PM
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I have both and they are of the same build quality. Just different.
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10-30-2006, 03:13 PM
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You can't have realistically expected the quality to be wildly different, can you? After all, they do come from the same factory and all, so I'd imagine they'd be similar. Of course, I may be wrong. Stranger things have happened.
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10-30-2006, 03:16 PM
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Re: PGM's vs. Jem
personally I would say this comparison would be a bit unfair. The JEM has quite a few more variables than the PGM but all and all I think the folks at Ibanez have got it down pretty well. I prefer the feel and functionality of a PGM over a JEM.
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10-30-2006, 03:37 PM
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Good question. I have an '05 Jem7vwh and I'd love to get a PGM301 but of course there's none anywhere to try out! Maybe I'll just have to buy without ever touching one. That's how I bought my Jem and I wasn't disappointed.
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10-30-2006, 04:18 PM
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personally I would say this comparison would be a bit unfair. The JEM has quite a few more variables than the PGM but all and all I think the folks at Ibanez have got it down pretty well. I prefer the feel and functionality of a PGM over a JEM.
Well the PGM has had basswood, ash and mahogany bodies, 2 body shapes, Floyd type, vintage type and fixed bridges and a couple of body shapes! Normal and
reverse headstocks
, and a fair few pickup combinations.
So I think that there are at least as many variables to the PGM.
I'd take whichever is to hand
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10-30-2006, 04:24 PM
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Yeah, but they are very hard to get and most of them were only released in Japan... unfortunately
I really like em both
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10-30-2006, 04:27 PM
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Re: PGM's vs. Jem
Given that both are Japanese made signature guitars I'm amazed at the difference in price
In the UK a new Jem 7VWH is £1600 and a PGM301 is £700.
While different body and bridges account for a small amount of that difference I don't understand where the other £800 has gone. Any ideas anyone??
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10-30-2006, 04:28 PM
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Well the PGM has had basswood, ash and mahogany bodies, 2 body shapes, Floyd type, vintage type and fixed bridges and a couple of body shapes! Normal and reverse headstocks, and a fair few pickup combinations.
So I think that there are at least as many variables to the PGM.
I'd take whichever is to hand
Based on current production models. : v )
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10-30-2006, 04:55 PM
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Has Paul ever used the whammy, ive never seen him with a bar attatched to it.
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10-30-2006, 05:14 PM
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Paul uses the whammy on the intro to Intense Rock. It's a
kahler trem
on his old purple (or pink) ibanez.
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10-30-2006, 05:20 PM
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Right
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10-30-2006, 05:23 PM
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You can't have realistically expected the quality to be wildly different, can you? After all, they do come from the same factory and all, so I'd imagine they'd be similar. Of course, I may be wrong. Stranger things have happened.
Exactly.
There's obviously bloopers as there are with any guitar manfacturer, but they're both 'Prestige' technically, so should be of the same quality.
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While different body and bridges account for a small amount of that difference I don't understand where the other £800 has gone. Any ideas anyone??
It's gone on the Vai association most probably
In all honesty the only things I can see costing more is the lo-pro/edge-pro and the very small cost of the extra material for the inlays, and time (lol) spent doing the body modifications. You do have to wonder why the 7vs are twice as much though..
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10-30-2006, 05:26 PM
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I played a FP Jem in a shop in a city near me and the quality wasnt great, not as good as my 1550 anyway.
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