Problem with 2003 7Vwh JEM, Possibly New Edge Pro Trem Fault - Page 4

the.godfather · #46 07-23-2003, 07:43 AM

lol - i have never seen that one before - it is good

Ki swordsman · #47 07-23-2003, 08:29 AM

maybe we should start a new thread for unleashing the emoticons
it'd be too offtopic here

hehe...

rvj · #48 07-23-2003, 09:27 AM

I have'nt been online or here on Jemsite much lately due to lack of time. But it's good to come back and see an interesting topic as opposed to the usual "what's better... a DBK or VWH" threads. The issue of the dying harmonics could be wood related, or even string related. We all know that some strings just don't sound as good as others. Were the strings the same D'add's as the other Jems that it was compared to? Were they fresh or the original set the guitar was shipped with?

I've had a few of the new VWH's come through our store and I've played just about every one of them. I have'nt noticed any problems at all. But one thing I have noticed is the vast quality improvement in the necks. The fretwork is much nicer and cleaner than older models I've played. You can actually see tons of color in the 24th fret abalone inlays. My '99 and many others are kinda burnt looking and have too much filler. The finish on the new models seem to be nicer also.

I'm off work today but will be in tomorrow. I'll give the new VWH's the 6th fret harmonic test and let you guys know what I find.

leonard deroma · #49 07-23-2003, 08:29 PM

The problem was there with factory strings, and three seperate string/neck setups with D'Add 9-42's

Give the test a try against another jem with a lo-pro.

Hopefully you can let me know.

Lenny

Rich · #50 07-23-2003, 08:39 PM

There's no reason to test against anything else, it's either got full tone and sustain or it doesn't. Just did another one last night [which makes 4 in the last 4 days] and they we're all nothing but consistent.

johncowan · #51 07-23-2003, 10:15 PM

Well here's my $.02. Since this gentlemen is obviously a guitar player and has played Jems prior to experiencing the problem I see no reason to doubt that particular VWH had an issue.

Also, since Ibanez produces thousands of Jem's a year for worldwide distribution, odds are that one or two may slip out with a problem.

What irks me is that why should the buyer not expect the dealer and Ibanez rep to solve the problem. Can't remember if warranties apply in Australia, but if your brand new car would shift into reverse do you need to take it apart to isolate the problem

I mean come on, if you spend cash on a new guitar then it should be delivered in new condition (performance and appearance). The customer service offered by your guitar shop especially since you seem to be a good customer is fairly shabby. I mean after fresh strings and a setup don't solve the problem....something else needs to be wrong.

Why should the buyer have to swap on parts on a 'brand new' guitar to isolate the problem. Completely ridiculous.

Rich · #52 07-23-2003, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by johncowan

Why should the buyer have to swap on parts on a 'brand new' guitar to isolate the problem. Completely ridiculous.

I never saud he should, I said that's what I would do, because, I'm a DEALER!

leonard deroma · #53 07-24-2003, 01:33 AM

I did waste a lot of time.

The Australis agency paid for one of the setups done at the Ibanez certified FRETCO ...... I had to pay for the strings.

The FRETCO guys are hopeless. I don't think they even played/checked the guitar for the things that were asked of them.

johncowan · #54 07-24-2003, 03:12 PM

Good point Rich, sorry.

rvj · #55 07-25-2003, 09:39 AM

Well... I played both VWH's, a PGM-30, a couple JS1000's and an RG-1570. All the guitars functioned perfectly and sounded fine. I did notice rather large gaps on both sides of the neck pocket on one of the VWH's.

My first guess would have been to replace the original strings, which apparently you did. Secondly, I would have checked the pick-up height. Other than that.... I would have simply returned the guitar for a refund or replacement.

Petie · #56 07-25-2003, 10:16 AM

He hasn't mentioned yet if the problem existed when the guitar was unplugged.

amt7565 · #57 07-25-2003, 11:58 AM

Guys!
I have the same problem Leonardo described. I bought a used VWH. It was in good condition. However I have problems with harmonics. I got better harmonics and sustain with a cheaper Ibanez-320DX guitar. Also while attempting to use the whammy bar, the notes do get cut off earlier than I would like.

I took it to the local guitar repair store( they are authorized dealers for Ibanez). They noticed that the frets were worn out. So they did a full setup for $100.00.(recrowned the frets/evened it out and polished edges)
The playability has got better, however the problem with harmonics and sustain still remain.

Rich, hey man, if I send the guitar to you for repairs, is there a fix for this?

Leonardo, as for you paying AU$5000.00 (US$2500.00) is bankrobbery!! You can almost get 2 guitars for that price here in the US. Next time you have money to spend, make a trip to the US to do you shopping. The airfare is about US$1200.00 roundtrip. So you get to visit USA and get a JEM for AU$5000.00. Howbout that?

Rich · #58 07-25-2003, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by amt7565

Rich, hey man, if I send the guitar to you for repairs, is there a fix for this?

Obviously this isn't a 2003' VWH. But to answer your question, no. I don't do tech for pay, and I'd avoid that job like the plague. I'd only tackle that if it was my responsibility to.

CrossingStar · #59 07-25-2003, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Petie

He hasn't mentioned yet if the problem existed when the guitar was unplugged.

Exactly. I was thinking the same thing.

EXCrosslink · #60 07-26-2003, 08:42 AM

can't blame the edge pro because as user of the edge pro, i haven't found any problems with harmonics or sustain with harmonics. my guitar with the edge pro did arrive with terrible setup, pickups being far too low but the intonation surprisingly was dead on from factory

lenny

Len