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Old 04-13-2005, 07:38 AM
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question on a part


ok guys. i bought another jem 555. i know you all think they are crap but i love the half vine inlay and the perloid pick guard on the black. the trem looked different so i looked and it is a edge floating trem. my question is there is a thing that looks like 2 shock absorbers hooked to the trem. what is it.

is this some piece of junk part that was added to the guitar? it doesn't lock the trem as it still works great.

i know i got this guitar kinda cheap. but it was setup well and plays 100x better than my first 555. i mean the strings bend super smooth and always returns to pitch. it seems the sound just jumps off the guitar. it has the pink pickup covers on it but the pickups are evolutions. the guy i bought it from said it was converted to get rid of all the 555 weakness, hence the trem and some resistors added to the pots. i can't tell the body was ever cut to make anything fit. was the edge factory on some of these? the body has flawless black paint that is so shinny it looks like it is under water
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Old 04-13-2005, 08:24 AM
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Re: question on a part


Looks like it was customized to get an Edge on it, and the tremsetter on the back (do a search, it is a stabilizer). Good one on you then.

I didn't know there were black 555s.
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Old 04-13-2005, 09:46 AM
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Re: question on a part


Congrats on the guitar!

Some pre-edge pro 555s can have their lo-trs trem swapped out for an edge/lo-pro without any body routing/modification, some can some can't.

Got any pics?
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Old 04-13-2005, 12:14 PM
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Re: question on a part


You got an Ibanez Back Stop in your guitar... they sell online for anywhere from $80 to $150... Sounds like it is adjusted properly too. If you bust a string the guitar should stay in tune... and also you should be able to tune it as easily as a fixed bridge.

Gratz.

FYI -- this link may be of some interest to you:
http://www.jemsite.com/axes/htm_feat...r.htm#backstop

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Old 04-17-2005, 07:09 AM
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Re: question on a part


the back stop is it. thanks.

i always hear the things about the 555 and to be honest even my first one plays great and sounds awsome. this second one i must say is fantastic. on of the other guys has a 7vwh and he even thinks it plays just as well.

i love playing but just have never been able to justify a 1200.00 guitar that will get dinged up. so i feel the 555 was a great way to get the guitar i like at a price i love.

granted both guitars were purchased for under 300.00 each. and i believe they are worth 3 times that. good solid guitars. the cheaper trem i just had to learn how to bump it after a pull to make it settle in tune again. now i do it out of habit and think it adds a little something that sits my playing apart from others.

no pics of the new one as of yet. but the older one without the edge is still my baby. she has battle scars from the years of abuse in the small clubs. each ding reminds me of past glory. well beaten and she has never missed a lick. i don't think i will ever replace her. play her as my main guitar till the neck falls off. even then i would probably use jb weld to patch her up.



thanks again for the part info. and some history.
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Old 04-17-2005, 07:21 AM
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Re: question on a part


It's cool that you're so attached to your guitars particulary your first one

It sounds like you got them for nice prices too, so good score!
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Old 04-17-2005, 11:39 AM
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Re: question on a part


Congratz!!!

Regards

André
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Old 04-18-2005, 07:11 AM
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Re: question on a part


yippee.. i'm not the only one here who has actually got good thing to say about a 555. I have had mine ten years now; it was one of the earliest pre pearloid scratch plates and doesnt have JEM JR adorning the head stock. I have put a lo pro in mine but it did require joinery.
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Old 04-18-2005, 12:29 PM
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Re: question on a part


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granted both guitars were purchased for under 300.00 each. and i believe they are worth 3 times that. good solid guitars. the cheaper trem i just had to learn how to bump it after a pull to make it settle in tune again. now i do it out of habit and think it adds a little something that sits my playing apart from others.
Cool to hear something like this. When I was just starting, my guitar was this cheap crappy Korean Kramer made with plybody - all I could afford. Pretty much the only good thing that could be said about the guitar was the new guitar smell when you opened the case. But over time the guitar developed some character, as it forced you to play in certain ways to get the job done.
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Old 04-18-2005, 04:48 PM
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Re: question on a part


I had a black 555 when they first came out. Biggest piece of ***** I ever bought. The frets were crap, it was set up horribly, string buzzing everywhere, the trem sucked. Horrible, horrible guitar, IMO.
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Old 04-19-2005, 04:48 AM
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Re: question on a part


ok time to preach



the only problem is the trem holding tuning after a pull up. no other problem ever. if you get the frets done like on any guitar you should there is no problems. i feel that my playing has expanded by having to use different styles and do different things. i see it as not a henderance but a doorway. as you walk through the door a whole new room is open to you that was not before. look at all the old legends of guitar their playing styles came from a need to work around something or they wanted a sound and had to find a way to get it. no guitar is perfect. but the ability to master the imperfections is what truly makes your music your own and allows your guitar to become a part of you rather than a piece of equipment. the spirit and drive to overcome the obsticles is what music soulful and developes a love for certain guitars.

case in point....why does vai love evo so much? with the effects can you truly hear the difference he heard when he first played it. on a album could you really tell the difference in the 7vwh's that he uses if the sustiner wasn't being used and the evolution pickups were being used just by ear... doubtful and vai even admits that. it is just a bond he has with it. and that bond alone can make you play better just by using it. kinda like a old shoe it just fits. heck even if he doesn't play evo that night it is still on stage patiently waiting and being a security blanket for him.


i have seen a horrible fp. it buzzed and the trem would just go out of tune. it had a hum that drove ya nuts. everytime you touched a knob or switch it would pop and it was brand new. so alot can be said about any guitar. just cause it don't cost a bazillion dollars doesn't mean it is junk. heck they can't be that bad mr vai played one for 2 days at a clinic and it sounded just fine. must have been pretty good as he put it in a case and it left with him. a pink case at that. the player is the key. eric clapton played a honer very cheap acoustic guitar at a blues festival. sounded great. so i believe the player is the key and the hands generate the tone and style that becomes the artist trademark.

so i will stick to my 555 as i love both of them and they play great. always get compliments on it and it has never let me down. in the last 8 years it has never once failed to make a show or had issues during the show. when a string breaks i pull a popsickle stick out of my back pocket and prop the trem up after i dive the strings and you know what..... it is so close to perfect tune with the stick holding the trem i can complete the song and nobody notices.

so i will keep on playing these and eventually i will get a 7vwh but the 555 will still be the front man. i play on sound and reliability. if it sounds great and hold up well i don't care if it was 2.00 it is priceless in my book. hell the 555 has earned its name as the "iron horse". tough as steel and can take a beating.

so for all those who say the 555 is not a real jem..... your right it is a diamond in the ruff and we all know uncut jems priceless.
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Old 04-19-2005, 08:16 AM
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Re: question on a part


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Looks like it was customized to get an Edge on it, and the tremsetter on the back (do a search, it is a stabilizer). Good one on you then.

I didn't know there were black 555s.
Yeah sounds like an upgraded 555 to me

They were all black a couple years back, or at least all the ones that I saw.
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