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Old 07-22-2005, 09:59 AM
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Slip of the Tongue.


This is not only my favourite Whitesnake album but controversialy......my favourite Vai performance (well....until Lotus Feet and Under it All anyway).

It was recorded around the time of the Jem 777's era and as I play a D.Y. I wonder if any of you guys know which guitars appeared on that album.
I've got a few of the live performance video's which feature all manner of swirl UV's (Some of them realy sweet!!) but I can play most of the album on 6 strings so I'm guessing most of it was recorded on the Jems. It would be cool to finaly know for sure though.

Cheers
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Old 07-22-2005, 11:21 AM
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Re: Slip of the Tongue.


Well, PAW was mostly recorded with UVs, and at the time it was the axe of his choice so I would asume that Slip of the Tongue was also recorded with UVs for the most part.
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Old 07-22-2005, 11:27 AM
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Re: Slip of the Tongue.


From what I had read in the past there are some UV prototypes and Jems on that album, and I think I read on a mirror covered UV on Vai.com that it was used for live shows with Whitesnake where it was lifted above the crowd and hit with a spotlight or somethign to that effect. I think I read somewhere that it was the first album recorded with a Universe.
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Old 07-22-2005, 11:34 AM
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Re: Slip of the Tongue.


In the cd booklet it says "Steve Vai uses the Ibanez Universe and the Ibanez Jem guitars" or something like that... what axe is on each track, i dunno...
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Old 07-22-2005, 11:40 AM
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Re: Slip of the Tongue.


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This is not only my favourite Whitesnake album but controversialy......my favourite Vai performance (well....until Lotus Feet and Under it All anyway).

It was recorded around the time of the Jem 777's era and as I play a D.Y. I wonder if any of you guys know which guitars appeared on that album.
I've got a few of the live performance video's which feature all manner of swirl UV's (Some of them realy sweet!!) but I can play most of the album on 6 strings so I'm guessing most of it was recorded on the Jems. It would be cool to finaly know for sure though.

Cheers
Ben
There is nothig controversial about it. Its my favourite Vai album along with PAW. It so influenced by Vai that it sounds like a Vai album with David Coverdale on vocals.... Hence the best Vai album with lyrics.
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Old 07-22-2005, 11:46 AM
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Re: Slip of the Tongue.


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There is nothig controversial about it. Its my favourite Vai album along with PAW. It so influenced by Vai that it sounds like a Vai album with David Coverdale on vocals.... Hence the best Vai album with lyrics.
Le me include "Eat'em and smile" on this list
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Old 07-22-2005, 12:00 PM
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Re: Slip of the Tongue.


As far as I know the "Mirror Ball" Jem was made specificaly for the tour shows and was born after the album was recorded. It's also true that it says he used UV's and Jems as per CD booklet, the big question is....which ones ??

I thought I might get flamed by some Vai purists for mentioning the Whitesnake album as Steve himself said the only reason he agreed to it was to promote PAW. The way I see it, it's a shame Adrian Vandenburg broke his arm before he could record what he wrote but I'm sure it wouldn't have sounded half as good as Steve played it. I've counted at least 6 guitar layers on some of those tracks and when he puts the Eventide in there it sounds like 12. Coverdales super strong vocals and Steves "wall of guitars" make for one of the best rock albums in history...........IMHO

Ben

P.S. There's some tidy drumming on there as well.
PPS If anyone has any photo's of the guitars used on that album please share them
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Old 07-22-2005, 02:02 PM
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Re: Slip of the Tongue.


Well, there are a couple tracks that are obvious a 7 was used, Judgement day for one. My guess is most of that record was done with the 7 strings, the tone is thicker than the DLR days with the JEM's and the Blaze pickups are a distinctively different sound than the PAF's. Of course I know amps make a huge difference, but most of it sounds like the UV to me.
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Old 07-23-2005, 06:40 PM
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Re: Slip of the Tongue.


Cheers LGM !
I'm trying to replicate the tones used on that album so it looks like I'm gonna have to make the switch to 7 strings.......Anyone got a cheap player condition UV for sale then....

Ben
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Old 07-23-2005, 10:47 PM
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Re: Slip of the Tongue.


Now I've got to dig out my Whitesnake album...good stuff!
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Old 07-23-2005, 11:43 PM
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Re: Slip of the Tongue.


Slip of the Tongue is great! Next to the stuff with the Diamond One, this is another one of my favorites. As great as Vai is on an overall musical level, I've always prefered hearing his work in a "regular" rock band setting....
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Old 07-24-2005, 01:02 AM
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Re: Slip of the Tongue.


Slip of the Tongue wouldnt be worth the $6 I paid for it without Vai.... seriously!

He also used a Les Paul on that album too. It said on his site if you look up the only Gibson / Les Paul he owns that he bought the LP to use in the studio for the album.
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Old 07-24-2005, 04:19 AM
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Re: Slip of the Tongue.


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Well, there are a couple tracks that are obvious a 7 was used, Judgement day for one. My guess is most of that record was done with the 7 strings, the tone is thicker than the DLR days with the JEM's and the Blaze pickups are a distinctively different sound than the PAF's. Of course I know amps make a huge difference, but most of it sounds like the UV to me.
Ditto .

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Old 07-24-2005, 03:22 PM
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Re: Slip of the Tongue.


Despite what it said in the album cover...this was around the time Vai was still using the mighty Green Meanie, right? Or was it retired before then? This was when jems and uv's were first starting to come out, I think Vai would still prefer to use the one he was familiar with for recording and such. Although I can't recall him ever using a 7 string besides a UV. Listen to "Is This Love". He has a completely different sound than any of his other albums on that one because in FTLOG and other 7th songs it just doesn't have that crying sound he captures on that song. I think I almost cried when I was listening to it last night. Or maybe it was how many times I died on star wars...
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Old 07-24-2005, 03:41 PM
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Re: Slip of the Tongue.


I forgot to ask, what amps was he using at this time? Was he still using Carvins or did he go to JCM 800's yet? I L-O-V-E the sounds he gets, I'm listening to "Now You're Gone" right now and just realize that that's the sound I've been wanting to get for a long time. 80's metal to the core man. Lol.
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