tremolo bar holder nut

[Chris1212]

i have tried using a deep well socket from the back, after taking off the pin on the trem bar holder and i still can't get the darn nut to tighten, my bar gets loose and just flops around. Is there some trick or special brand of socket to use. Ive already looked at the tech stuff on this site on how to fix it and i still can't seem to figure out how to tighten the thing! Help

[Andelusion]

Replace the arm bushings first to check they're not just worn.

[Chris1212]

they are fine, its the nut that is making the whole unit move, not the bar itself

[resha]

I think this can help you, even if it's in Italian

http://www.guitarmigi.it/tips/leva-I...spx#prolungare

Thanx to the great Migi!

[Chris1212]

thanks, but there has to be a way without takin the trem off

[Dragon Slayer J]

dude... its far easier to take the trem out.

try tightening it from the top with a flat head before you tighten the nut. sometime i find that it unscrews as well.

[hall]

Originally Posted by Chris1212

thanks, but there has to be a way without takin the trem off

Leave the strings on the guitar and the locknuts tight and then remove the tremolo springs. You should now be able to pull the tremolo away from the posts and get at the nut.

[Chris1212]

ah ha good idea, thanks...i guess this wont hurt the setup????

[acoustic1991]

Nope. Just undo the springs and leave the claw alone and it will return to where you had it before.

Josh

[Dragon Slayer J]

^ and in tune too, at least it does every time i take it out

[Dee]

Originally Posted by Dragon Slayer J

try tightening it from the top with a flat head before you tighten the nut.

It's too easy to damage it this way, I would advise anyone to do it the correct way, don't be lazy about it. Take the bridge out.

[Ironjose]

its like locking the trem arm foverer isnt???

[Chris1212]

Originally Posted by Dee

It's too easy to damage it this way, I would advise anyone to do it the correct way, don't be lazy about it. Take the bridge out.

yea i have done that before shows for a quick fix and it not only damages the gold but it is not a permanent thing, i will def. do the spring removal. what size deepwell socket is it again? and also what is the claw and why do i need to be worried about it when i pull out my trem???

[hall]

Originally Posted by Chris1212

...and also what is the claw and why do i need to be worried about it when i pull out my trem???

The claw is the L-shaped piece in the back. The tremolo springs hook to one side and the other has the (2) screws that go into the body. No one said anything to worry about.

I wasn't going to say it would be in tune when you put things back, but it's awfully close. Others have had good luck too. All I know is it's a better option than removing/replacing the strings (unless they're due for replacement).

[Chris1212]

great.....thanks alot! I'll go ahead and put some chapstick on the knife blades too cause they don't seem to go back to neutral lately but they used to fine