Vai Universe Riffs?

[whtwlf]

The answer has already pretty much been said. If you watch Weiner's parts in any of the DVD's they're the good 7 String riffing.

The start of Erotic Nightmares is a good one.

Cheers,
Shane

[Swirled777]

Here's another one that I forgot to mention and have you ever given thought to?? How about some John Petrucci. He's used the 7 string alot in the past, probably alot more than Vai ever did(when it comes to heavy rhythms).

[guitarmandp]

I disagree totally that he only used the 7 string for rhythm. Here's a couple of 7 string songs. "The Audience is Listening". In later years when he performed this song he arranged it for 6 string guitar but it was played and recorded on a 7 string.

Kill The Guy With The Ball / Yo Yo Gak was also recorded with a 7 string.

[littlephil]

Originally Posted by Homebake

bad horsie is actually a 6-string detuned to C or C#, can't remember.

Drop C.

[guitarmandp]

The Mysterious Murder of Christian Tiera's Lover is another 7 string song.

[Cymbaline]

Originally Posted by Swirled777

Here's another one that I forgot to mention and have you ever given thought to?? How about some John Petrucci. He's used the 7 string alot in the past, probably alot more than Vai ever did(when it comes to heavy rhythms).

Yes! Petrucci has some GREAT 7-string riffs. For example:
A Change Of Seasons
The Mirror
Caught In A Web
The Glass Prison
The Dark Eternal Night

Search YouTube, and be amazed.

[skrewflanders]

Originally Posted by Diamond Dave

You don't think he just prefers using Evo? You know, the guitar he's mainly stuck with for over 15 years? You know, the guitar he wrote this about:

"For me, Evo has been the voice of my heart and has seen the depth of my most depressed emotional frames of mind to my most euphoric moments of joy and divine love, and she usually gets the brunt of it all. I have cried, screamed, prayed and bled through that instrument, and like I said, although she is only wire and wood, there is an emotional investment in her."

But of course, he'd give up Evo for a second to play a 7 string if it wasn't more stiffer to do lazy trem tricks....



I don't think, a small matter of a quarter of a century after Flex-able, that Steve Vai is "trying" to be anything. He is what he is.

ROFL!!!!!!!

[slapnutz]

Originally Posted by fwd0120

Two words. The and Riddle!!!!!!

Farking aye!

Since I cant post links basically youtube search "Steve Vai the riddle" and listen to it. Its awesome.

Heaviness starts around 3m46s

Superawesomeness starts around 4m39s.

[RG1820X]

Originally Posted by guitarmandp

The Mysterious Murder of Christian Tiera's Lover is another 7 string song.

Yes, one of my favorites.

[Cam-Vai]

Originally Posted by RedTiger

Some people define "riff" differently than others. I tend to place a riff in the rhythm category as well, but is it really rhythm?

Example: Smoke on the Water. Famous riff, but is it really the real rhythm of the song? No, its better described as simply being the part that Ritchie Blackmore plays repeatedly over the rhythm provided by the drums, base, and organ. It is THE part that you identify with song, however. So much so that just about anyone who's heard it once can sing it.

That's my definition of a riff!

Steve Vai songs with an immediately recognizable 7 string riff: The Animal and Bad Horsie

the animal yes!!
the small dragging on the b ounds awesome in the middle, just as acoustic comes in!

but NOT on bad horsie!!! noooooo
he tunes to drop C ala Killswitch engage, job for a cowboy and children of bodom.

tune a whole tone down and drop that sh!t!!!
but its mass myth on bad horsie, everyone seems to think its C# where as its not.

[JPM7stringfan]

Originally Posted by Cymbaline

Yes! Petrucci has some GREAT 7-string riffs. For example:
A Change Of Seasons
The Mirror
Caught In A Web
The Glass Prison
The Dark Eternal Night

Search YouTube, and be amazed.

I'd also like to add:

Lie
This Dying Soul
The Dance of Eternity
Tunnel Vison
A Nightmare to Remember

JP went even more epic win earlier this year, when he tuned the 7 down to A, for the Raw Dog instrumental!

[Petie]

Originally Posted by MM

Not entirely correct.

A universe was used on most of Passion and Warfare. Since then Steve has used a Universe on tracks such as "Ooo", and most recently on "Under It All". This was both for lead and rhythm.

Mikey
vai.com

Mikey, do you happen to know which model Universe Steve used on 'Oooo'? As we all know, the booklet shot features a UV777BK (I wanted one so bad after that, but never thought I would ever actually get one 8 years later!) which was new at the time, but that doesn't mean it was used on the recording.

[bbw84]

Originally Posted by JPM7stringfan

I'd also like to add:

Lie
This Dying Soul
The Dance of Eternity
Tunnel Vison
A Nightmare to Remember

JP went even more epic win earlier this year, when he tuned the 7 down to A, for the Raw Dog instrumental!

Like to correct that, A nightmare to remember was played on his tuned down 6 strings.

[cm_17]

I recently fell in love with a part of "Building the Church"'s backing track. There is a short part where he plays a B cord over pretty much all of the 7 strings incl. open B, followed by C maj/C5 (?). Dunno why, but that part just resonates wonderfully, on pretty much any guitar I've played it on (I only have 6-strings), sort of like a perfectly balanced frequency range for guitar .

[Drew]

Originally Posted by Homebake

why would vai used a 7-string live? he plays the LEAD parts of his songs live while dave is behind him raping the 7-string. where's the point in using a fatter neck with and extra string that's not even being used and having a stiffer whammy?

Um, who says you can't solo on the low B?