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08-02-2007, 06:32 PM
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Re: What does everyone think about this True Temperment necks that Vai talks about
I'm abit late on commenting on this but like other people have said who needs it? If Vai is using it ,it's just further proof his anal quest for perfection is getting in the way of him writing anything decent ever again
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I'm abit late on commenting on this but like other people have said who needs it? If Vai is using it ,it's just further proof his anal quest for perfection is getting in the way of him writing anything decent ever again
? I think his new stuff is good too??
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? I think his new stuff is good too??
I'm still living in the eighties!I gave up with Steve after his last album
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08-02-2007, 07:11 PM
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I'm still living in the eighties!I gave up with Steve after his last album
sucks for you
We now have things called cell phones and highspeed internet and still good Vai music
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08-03-2007, 01:46 PM
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in this month's Guitar One. I did several double-takes looking at the pics, but on the CD in this months GO Vai says he will be fitting all of his guitars with this system. Here is the link:
http://www.truetemperament.com/main.php?go=23&lan=1
This is like an endorsing game for Steve.
It was Fretwave first, then Buz Feiten and now this... blaaa
I've said this before but I'll say it again.
If you consider that picking and fretting will make individual people sound couple of cents off esp with 9s (which is what 90% of all
super strat
dudes play), then consider that these guitars have
floating trems
installed - you are always going to push a floater with 9s a few cents off just by strumming and not to mention that 9/10 times these guitars will be played with some sort of gain/distortion engaged - I'm not sure who would be able to hear the benefits of this thing.
I'm all for Earvana or Buzz Feiten or FretWave (well I'm not but I won't think you are stupid if you had it and boasted about it) if it was on a Taylor 914 or on a Martin 00028 strung with 13s and you were mainly playing an acoustic set but on an electric double locker strung up with 9s - I'm affraid is just a gimmick.
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08-03-2007, 02:26 PM
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Re: What does everyone think about this True Temperment necks that Vai talks about
he seems to have alot of brief flings with new inventions & gear.
if it's is truly important it should be on ANY NEW signature model in HIS name.
period.
.... glen
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08-03-2007, 04:16 PM
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I don't care if Steve thinks it is sliced bread, if they put this on all JEMs, then I've bought my last JEM. I think the powers that be know that, too. It would be suicide to the line.
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he seems to have alot of brief flings with new inventions & gear.
if it's is truly important it should be on ANY NEW signature model in HIS name.
period.
.... glen
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08-03-2007, 04:21 PM
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I don't care if Steve thinks it is sliced bread, if they put this on all JEMs, then I've bought my last JEM. I think the powers that be know that, too. It would be suicide to the line.
exclamation point.
uh I don't think ibanez would put them on, only steve would have them, like the sustainer, led's, blah blah
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08-04-2007, 01:47 PM
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I think it's a very novel idea. I'm extremely anal about intonation on a guitar, and when I heard about this, I was excited. If I could afford it, I'd totally have a guitar sent off to Sweden to have this done to it. I'm always looking for something new in the guitar.
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08-05-2007, 01:01 AM
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If anyone cares about intonation that much, why would you just get a fretless neck? Sorry, maybe I'm not seeing the point here (and the sustain and imperfection of flesh vs. steel fret) but theoretically wouldn't a fretless neck add more freedom than this system?
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08-05-2007, 01:23 AM
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If anyone cares about intonation that much, why would you just get a fretless neck? Sorry, maybe I'm not seeing the point here (and the sustain and imperfection of flesh vs. steel fret) but theoretically wouldn't a fretless neck add more freedom than this system?
thats what i have my upright bass for, rofl. I think you have a point but I also see the point in this since I also play fretless. Vai wants something perfect but not like fretless where you have to find the perfect note, it is already fretted
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08-05-2007, 04:51 AM
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Re: What does everyone think about this True Temperment necks that Vai talks about
I tried this necks (there are more than one model) this week. And it makes a difference. Whether or not it would be needed for a live situation, well, that's pretty much up to you. But I think it would be good for recordings. If you only play the same pentatonic scale in each song, you wouldn't bother. Some play more complex music, tonally speaking, then it's nice if everything is in tune and you actually can add other instruments over the guitar.
You can get it on any neck. And the frets are casted so refrets are possible.
I could feel a difference playing it, nothing strange at all. (The 24 fret strat is his personal guitar, that's why it's so strange.) I think it would be nice to have on at least one guitar.
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08-05-2007, 08:38 AM
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Re: What does everyone think about this True Temperment necks that Vai talks about
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If anyone cares about intonation that much, why would you just get a fretless neck? Sorry, maybe I'm not seeing the point here (and the sustain and imperfection of flesh vs. steel fret) but theoretically wouldn't a fretless neck add more freedom than this system?
I've seen him play fretless, but not in what you'd call typical rock guitar fashion. As someone already pointed out, he just wants a better intonated version of a traditional fretted instrument. Whether or not he keeps it on there, who knows. But I think it's cool that he's willing to try new stuff out to take his music in new directions. What's the harm?
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08-05-2007, 10:17 AM
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I agree it looks funky, and a refret would be a nightmare & costly.
However I have struggled with the pitch of my guitars for years, set up and intonated, yet the pitch drives me crazy, never sounds in-tune, many years I thought it was my guitars had problems, then thought my ears had problems, techs would not hear what I was hearing, fellow musicians didn't either. Then a little while back a professional musician handed me a book called, "TEMPERAMENT" by STUART ISACOFF, and explained my ears were telling me the truth that the guitar is not in-tune with itself. (What a relief! Realized I wasn't crazy after all
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So more power to Steve for exploring this concept, raise the bar in the right direction, I would buy one and more than likely not play standard guitars any longer.
Oh dear! That would be a bummer, the "Mystery PMC" would sit in a case like those collector dudes, yickess, thats a scary boring thought.
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Eric Johnson
seems to get on ok with standard frets and better tuning methods.
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