Who else would like to see a UVMC reissue?

[bonehead189]

Originally Posted by Drew

A UVMC reissue? I'd rather see something fresh. It was a bold and unique finish at the time - why not do a new UV to reflect that spirit of breaking away from finishes that have already been done than a reissue?

And honestly, another low-run pricey "collectable" from Ibanez is the last thing we need.

-D

I would like to see a reissue also, but you're right. It will be another low-run pricey "collectable" from Ibanez (that's the last thing we need). A new finish such a quilted top, or maybe a pearl swirl instead of the flourecents would be nice.

[ryanb]

If they did make it, the production would be more like 77, not 777, and at least 5k price. Personally, I find the DNA swirls much more attractive than (almost all of) the UVMC swirls. Time will tell if they fade away as badly. Vai rarely plays a UV or even a DNA these days (as I have seen anyway). He seems to be past his swirl days, and I doubt Ibanez has much interest in bringing it back.

There are plenty of other new things they could do with finishes and hardware though. I'd like to see something new. Of course, it would be nice to have a new-design normally-priced production-volume model in addition to the collector-market special-editions. I doubt that will come though. The changes will show up in the 6-string arena. But that's what customization is for.

[marianozz]

Originally Posted by phlame

Understandibly the 7 string market isn't what it used to be so if the production was kept low and the price was high the UV's would find themselves in the hands of the fans that truly want them.

Wrong. Theyd end up in collector's hands, theyd rest in cases, and very few would get actually played with (let alone gigged with)...


Ibanez never did reissues... the new chrome JS maybe, but even that one's different...

I think they will come up with something at around 6k, hopefully really nice, "elegant" looking, not "too" over the top...

And forget about the one piece necks... look at the DNA, when they made those it was a stock DBK neck with a great inlay... I wouldnt hold my breath for old trems either...

Itll just be whatever the stock Jem of the moment is, with a cool commemorative finish, and a huuuuge price tag...

[dysfctn]

I'll take 3 thanks

[sanchez]

This is just my opinion, but I believe they should never reissue any model. That is what makes the UVMC highly sort after. I looked for 5 years before I found one and it is still the only one I have ever seen in the flesh.

I'd like to see them release a nice QM top UV. However, I will never buy any new Ibanez because I just can't stand the new trems.

I also think the last 3 Jems to be released are a far cry from the older ones. I have a VWH and a BFP and would buy an older model in the drop of a hat but wouldn't touch the last 3.

Again this is just my opinion.

Sanchez

[fettouhi]

Originally Posted by sanchez

This is just my opinion, but I believe they should never reissue any model. That is what makes the UVMC highly sort after. I looked for 5 years before I found one and it is still the only one I have ever seen in the flesh.

I'd like to see them release a nice QM top UV. However, I will never buy any new Ibanez because I just can't stand the new trems.

I also think the last 3 Jems to be released are a far cry from the older ones. I have a VWH and a BFP and would buy an older model in the drop of a hat but wouldn't touch the last 3.

Again this is just my opinion.

Sanchez

AY AY on the QM tops .

Regards

André

[RCB]

I believe the new jem (BRM) is among the line of the older ones. It has a flashy finish and if I ever come across a good deal on a used one, Ill probably grab it.... hell I may also grab a DBK if its cheap enough. A DBK with an aluminum pickduard and pups (the pups would have to be paint in aluminum , but i think Itll probably work).

The DBK and UV777BK are 2 guitars that I find very suitable to customize.

What I would really like to do sometime, but I dont know if its actually possible, is to do a translucent swirled finish over a figured wood (the sort of thing Ibanez did on the JPM90 and the RGART, but instead of geometrical figures, Id do a swirl). Now, I realize that, since you have to submerge the guitar in water it has to be sealed (probably with a transparent clear) and then probably sand that finish a little in order for the swirl paints to adhere to the surface. I dont know how it would turn out, but I may give it a try when I get back to argentina. I think it would have to be over very clear wood, probably quilted maple. Since a quilted maple body would be too expensive in argentina, and labour is quite cheap, you ll probably have to make a body with veneers on the top, back and sides with double (black) binding. Then clear it, then sand that clear, then apply the different colored stained clearcoat over the water and finally submerge the guitar to make the swirl.

It seems quite complicated... but muy be it can be done. I may give it a try with a tiny piece of wood.

[phlame]

Maybe I jumped the gun in suggesting 777, that # may be a little high but I'm sure Ibanez could handle 300 or something.

[Chris From Singapore.]

The transwirl is possible.

I remember seeing a picture of it on Herc's site when it was still functional.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by RCB

(the pups would have to be paint in aluminum , but i think Itll probably work)..

Dimarzio is on the verge of releasing their new chromed pickups to the public. They have metal bobin covers that are chromed. The JS2 will be getting them. They're about twice the cost of a normal Dimarzio but virtually indestructible.

[RCB]

Someone, I cant remmeber who, reported that there were many UVMCs bodies and necks, that were never assembled, stocked in japan. Those are likely to be a late run of japs swirls that werent released because the model was going to be discontinued or because ATD was done by 91, and they wouldnt risk a conflict with Vai by releasing those afterwards, or just pretty bad jap swirls that werent worth releasing.

If this is true, they could make a small reissue at affordable prices, although I dont know if this is true. And even if its true I dont know if the swirls are worth doing it. I dont think Steve would oppose to this. He doesnt seem to care as much as he used to. I dont think he is nearly as involved as he used to be. If the check is big enough, and the swirls are not that bad, he may aprove them without too much trouble.

There are a lot of conditionals:

If they had the bodys and necks.
If they are fairly good swirls.
If the necks and bodys are still in perfect condition.
If they can get Vai to aprove production
If the number of guitars they have is enough to release a pretty big number at relatively affordable price (3,5-4K list price).

I just remember this rumor, but I dont know if there s any truth in it. Then, if you have enough if them, you can probably release 400-500 of them and probably be able to sell them.

[RCB]

Originally Posted by Rich

Dimarzio is on the verge of releasing their new chromed pickups to the public. They have metal bobin covers that are chromed. The JS2 will be getting them. They're about twice the cost of a normal Dimarzio but virtually indestructible.

Thats great news! Thanks for the info.

[jim777]

A new UV would be awesome, but a reissue MC I don't think is a good idea. I love them for what they are but they'd be diminished by new ones. I also love the one piece necks but any time you can get the stability of removing the scarf joint you are better off, IMHO. 5 piece, no scarf, is how I'd go now. It's too bad Steve doesn't seem to like seeing wood grain on the faces of his electrics, or there's be so many possibilities for "one of a kinds" just through the grain of the maple (or whatever) alone.

[RCB]

Originally Posted by phlame

^^ That's easy for you to say because you already have 2 UVMC's.

Personnaly I would rather pay the cash for a new one and pick out a decent swirl than to send money to somebody in a foreign country with a beat up, crappy, faded MKR with a cliplock installed.

As I posted before its not so rare to find a MKR that is pretty good:

Now on evil bay there is one for auction. I really like the swirl and colours:

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There is also a DNA. Even though DNAs are among the best swirls ATD made, you can see that this particular swirl isnt that great:

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And this is a DNA. I can show you some really bad UV, PMC and GMC ATD swirls.

But as I said, Im not neglecting that on average they are better than japanese swirls (some jap swirls are hideous).

If you want a UVMC so badly, take a look at ths auction. It aint cheap (starts at 2300, but I doubt he will get anything more than that, but it seems in pretty good condition, and I think its very nice swirl. Probably a better idea than wait and hope for a reissue with a 5K or above price tag.

[phlame]

That UV looks decent but I wouldn't send money overseas, especially for an MKR.


I think I'll just ale my chances and see if a reissue is done, and if not than screw it.