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Old 11-01-2009, 11:02 AM
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Re: Wizard II neck IS a JEM neck.


I'm with the guys, the two necks are completely different.
Play one and other and you'll feel it, unless you're a n00b.
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Old 11-01-2009, 11:46 AM
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Re: Wizard II neck IS a JEM neck.


The vine desert yellow also had a wizard.
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Old 11-01-2009, 08:37 PM
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Re: Wizard II neck IS a JEM neck.


In terms of profile they feel much the same to me - I've barely played the Wizard II since 1997 but find it easy to switch when I occasionally pick it up. Fret size and finishing make the Jem much nicer though.
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:19 PM
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Re: Wizard II neck IS a JEM neck.


In comparison, the old Wizard is a lot more thinner and flatter than a Wizard II. Those new 5 piece wizard necks on the other hand feels a lot like a Wizard II despite the spec saying they are a lot more thinner.

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old Wizard and Wizard II = night and day difference
new Wizard and Wizard II = very similiar
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Old 11-03-2009, 07:44 PM
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Re: Wizard II neck IS a JEM neck.


even in the necks of the 777 are differences,and the vbk and dy/pmc/sk/lng are different too,its a little but it is.the pbk and vdy are totally different.even thinner than the old 550 and the feel is different too.i can feel the difference between my 2 vdy jems too.its not that im high sensetive or something but you can feel it. a lot of people have expererienced the differences in 550/570's too.that must be.i had 5 uvpwh's and even there was a little difference to notice,not that much but it is.even in sound.my sk sounds different than my lng of pmc,so i gues the discussion isnt that important but what you feel and hear.years ago i read specs and thought i knew it...now i know it is in the guitar and not the count of parts that makes it.
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Old 11-04-2009, 12:25 PM
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Re: Wizard II neck IS a JEM neck.


I'd put W2 in the "Extremely Close... but no cigar" category. One of the things I really love about Indy guitars is that the W2 feels very close to being a Jem neck. It's thicker, obviously, than W1 so you can really dig your fingers into those notes!
As far as being the "same"; no, not exactly. The different radius makes W2 feel more boxy. I think the prevalence of neck binding on W2 makes it worse. I have a maple fretboard W2 that feels much better than its rosewood counterparts with binding.
And, yes, it goes without saying that you'll see better craftsmanship on a Jem.
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Old 11-06-2009, 12:46 PM
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Re: Wizard II neck IS a JEM neck.


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A wizard I neck is the same as a wizard II, all that is different is thickness and radius...
Nice, I thought this was pretty funny
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Old 12-09-2009, 09:32 PM
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Re: Wizard II neck IS a JEM neck.


They are definitely not the same; they may seem to have similar specs, but--having owned both--I can say clearly that they are not the same in feel or quality. My RG450 had a wizard II- it was bulkier than a wizard, and flat. My JEM7VWH's neck feels more substantial than a wizard, but more round. The difference in finish quality is significant too; the 450 had sort of a sticky lacquer- the JEM has a nice satin finish and better fret dressing.
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