Any views on Edge Zero Bridge ? - Page 3

Rich · #31 01-10-2009, 09:32 PM

Pull that ZPS out and put good studs in it [lubed] and you'll have superb return from pull-up

Homebake · #32 01-10-2009, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by PBGas

Here's another issue that some may find.....on the second string at certain resonant frequencies when bending upwards, that saddle will vibrate. The springs beneath the saddles are too weak.

i have a problem where some notes just turn into harmonics. same thing?

rich, you say the EZ would function as well as/better than an EP with the bar out and better studs?

Rich · #33 01-10-2009, 10:34 PM

Return as well, yes. I've never had a problem with it's return [sans ZPS]. There's more to a trem than how well it RTZ though.

scotteggshell · #34 01-11-2009, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by PBGas View Post

Here's another issue that some may find.....on the second string at certain resonant frequencies when bending upwards, that saddle will vibrate.

I played around with mine and couldnt reproduce this, however my gtr is only a month old. Maybe the bridge needs a bit of wear to replicate this.

I agree with Rich in that return is not everything on a bridge. You use the tremolo function maybe 10% of the time(just a geuss), but 100% of the time the bridge is transferring energy to the body. That's why I am concerned with the low mass of the bridge.

S

scotteggshell · #35 01-11-2009, 01:49 PM

Oh, But that being said if it doesn't return properly then it's useless (to me).

S

teokiatuan · #36 01-11-2009, 11:42 PM

without the zps, its as good(dive and pullup) as an EP?
does the finish wear off quick on the cosmo EZ?

Cool Guy · #37 01-12-2009, 10:52 AM

I'm getting used to the bridge on the egen, but so far no problems. Stays perfectly in tune so far. Maybe time will throw up some probs, maybe not.
So far, in practise, I have had no issues with the fine tuners...

Guy

PBGas · #38 01-12-2009, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cool Guy

I'm getting used to the bridge on the egen, but so far no problems. Stays perfectly in tune so far. Maybe time will throw up some probs, maybe not.
So far, in practise, I have had no issues with the fine tuners...

Guy

Good to hear! Yours comes with the zp bar out of it though, correct? That's probably why it works perfectly!

sixstringer · #39 11-06-2009, 03:28 AM

I am very amused to see the passionate love and hate messages on this forum on the EZ bridge. There are people who swear and people who humbly accept.I am sure there is a some-what intelligent designer in Ibanez who churns out these ****y designs for us to debate on. However look at it objectively. Not all inventions can be tested in the lab, its us (guitar players) who give the feedback. I own a Gibson SG, PRS Custom SE, Jackson DK2M (OFR) and Ibanez 2550Z's.

I scouted 6 months on all forums trying to get a review, and finally picked up not 1 but 2 RG2550Z - GK, GW, although the positive feedback on the Edge pro and Lo pro were more than the EZ, I went in for it as the neck is perhaps the best in the all the prestige models. Let me tell you having owned it for 1 year now, I have faced no tuning problems. The trem is stable and does what it says. If you want butter finger like trem bar action, hire a guitar technician while touring to tune it after your fireworks.

Every one who knows how to do the Vai like Chopping tremolo tricks knows that you cannot bend on the 3rd string and play the 2nd in tune with those soft springs. It wont happen in a EZ until you hit 2 notes up. I make a living as a teacher and guitar technician teaching students how to tune floating bridges - yes there is a market for teaching how to tune as well. Ignorance is the key word here. AS one forum member said, "Its rather a resilience to something new" I have to agree 100% with it. I have used OFRs, EDGE III, EDGE PRO and LO PRO and this is equally super. It is well built comes in oxidised shiny hardware, and is simple to adjust and work with. As with different trems you need to get used to it. Thats why I picked up two axes so that both guitars have the same trem systems and I dont have a problem in case I have to switch to my back up.

The pick ups are not upto the mark. But you can over come the harshness but putting a good EQ after your distortion chain. I swapped the GK with a Evolution in the Bridge and the GW with a Super distortion --- EVos for those tone intensive songs and ballads - scorpions, Garry Moore, vai, satriani and super distortion for Maiden / Sabbath etc.

I have no qualm, how ever i wont buy another RG2550, I will definitly buy a Prestige Ibanez but some other model if it this RG2550Z was lost.

Homebake · #40 11-06-2009, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by sixstringer

I am very amused to see the passionate love and hate messages on this forum on the EZ bridge. There are people who swear and people who humbly accept.I am sure there is a some-what intelligent designer in Ibanez who churns out these ****y designs for us to debate on. However look at it objectively. Not all inventions can be tested in the lab, its us (guitar players) who give the feedback. I own a Gibson SG, PRS Custom SE, Jackson DK2M (OFR) and Ibanez 2550Z's.

I scouted 6 months on all forums trying to get a review, and finally picked up not 1 but 2 RG2550Z - GK, GW, although the positive feedback on the Edge pro and Lo pro were more than the EZ, I went in for it as the neck is perhaps the best in the all the prestige models. Let me tell you having owned it for 1 year now, I have faced no tuning problems. The trem is stable and does what it says. If you want butter finger like trem bar action, hire a guitar technician while touring to tune it after your fireworks.

Every one who knows how to do the Vai like Chopping tremolo tricks knows that you cannot bend on the 3rd string and play the 2nd in tune with those soft springs. It wont happen in a EZ until you hit 2 notes up. I make a living as a teacher and guitar technician teaching students how to tune floating bridges - yes there is a market for teaching how to tune as well. Ignorance is the key word here. AS one forum member said, "Its rather a resilience to something new" I have to agree 100% with it. I have used OFRs, EDGE III, EDGE PRO and LO PRO and this is equally super. It is well built comes in oxidised shiny hardware, and is simple to adjust and work with. As with different trems you need to get used to it. Thats why I picked up two axes so that both guitars have the same trem systems and I dont have a problem in case I have to switch to my back up.

The pick ups are not upto the mark. But you can over come the harshness but putting a good EQ after your distortion chain. I swapped the GK with a Evolution in the Bridge and the GW with a Super distortion --- EVos for those tone intensive songs and ballads - scorpions, Garry Moore, vai, satriani and super distortion for Maiden / Sabbath etc.

I have no qualm, how ever i wont buy another RG2550, I will definitly buy a Prestige Ibanez but some other model if it this RG2550Z was lost.

agreed.

a big issue people have with the EZ is that it's chinese-made as opposed to the other previous edge/lo pro/edge pro.

stodge · #41 11-06-2009, 08:21 AM

Would people like the EZ better if it was made in Japan?

Homebake · #42 11-06-2009, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by stodge

Would people like the EZ better if it was made in Japan?

some people would.

jam3v · #43 11-06-2009, 10:52 AM

I read a lot of poor opinions of it on this forum, but after using one for a few months now I think it's just fine. The ZPS allows me to quickly change to drop D without having to retune the other strings significantly. It stays in tune better than my JEM, but I suspect that's the fault of the springs.

RedTiger · #44 11-06-2009, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Homebake

Most ~~some~~ people would.

FIFY.

I guess a Chinese factory worker can't push buttons on a casting machine as well as a Japanese one can. Whatever metal the Japanese are using in their casting machines must me 100% high quality too. 25 years ago a Japanese worker couldn't do these tasks as well as American ones. Some people still feel this way.

Seriously, there's a point to make about guitars actually carved out and put together in China, but a chunck of diecast metal? Maybe its the diecasting that turns people off?

Bones43x · #45 11-06-2009, 11:30 PM

I've had my 2550Z for a year now also and I love it. I still need to change the PUs, but the bridge stays in tune really well...better than my SG with a tune-o-matic. Granted, I don't use the trem a whole lot.

My only problem with the EZ is that the trem bar has some play...and when you tighten it enough to get the play out, the bar won't just fall out of the way when you're done with it.