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Old 07-28-2006, 03:59 PM
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Re: Crooked Prestige


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Long story short...this is what happened.

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Order me a new guitar. Let me keep the one I have until the new one comes in. I pick up the new guitar and give the defective guitar back to Guitar Center.


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So I'm happy
Good! Nice to hear your case worked out
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Old 07-29-2006, 12:41 PM
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Re: Crooked Prestige


More detailed description of what happened.....

Well I took it up once and they said they would send it back to Ibanez with no guaruntee to what, if anything would be done.

I declined.

Went back later and asked if I could have a meeting with the local Ibanez rep.

While I was having the converstion about the rep, another salesperson (happened to be a sales manager from a differant guitar center) jumped in and said "Let's just fast forward and repair or replace your guitar." I said, "Nothing would make me happier".

He then asked "What would you like to do?" I said, "I'd like to give the guitar back to you and have a replacement ordered for me."

He replied, "I have to see the guitar". I did not have it with me that time.

I said, "I'll go get it, right now!"

I did....showed it to him....he agreed it was defective and ordered me a new one.

3 trips up there, but they finally made it right.
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Old 07-29-2006, 02:33 PM
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Re: Crooked Prestige


Can't wait to see the new top!!
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Old 08-03-2006, 03:34 PM
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Re: Crooked Prestige


I got the replacement. Pics to follow.
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Old 08-03-2006, 05:22 PM
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Re: Crooked Prestige


So here it is.........Un-Crooked



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Old 08-03-2006, 05:23 PM
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Re: Crooked Prestige


Here is the crooked one.............wasted wood.


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Old 08-03-2006, 05:29 PM
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Re: Crooked Prestige


And just think..... some figured you should have just accepted the defective one and almost had you convinced it'd be too much hassle. Glad to hear it's all straightened out and so quickly too! Nice looking NEW guitar.
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Old 08-03-2006, 05:50 PM
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Re: Crooked Prestige


Noyce!!!...though like the top on the crooked one better.
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Old 08-03-2006, 05:51 PM
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Re: Crooked Prestige


True.

And it did come quickly.

Thanks!
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Old 08-03-2006, 08:12 PM
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Re: Crooked Prestige


Critique....

Overall the guitar is nice.

It is setup a little better than the first one. The nut hieght is better out of the box.

This is what I see/saw so far...

The guitar was missing the locking screw and pad on low E side when I picked it up. No... turns out they were just underneath the backside of the neck, in the case. Not good. But...as hard as it is to believe, no damage.

Everything is pretty straight. If you look really close, the trem post are still not symmetrical to the route, on either side. Even my S540LTD has some variance. Much Improved. The trem at the bearing pivot point, is correct.

The finish is pretty much on par with the old one. Once again, if you look super close you can see the sanding marks in the top, below the finish. Just like the last one. But ....like I said before, I kinda expect that with this type of top.

The finish, in the recess area of the input, seems a little less then the old one. You can see a, very small, spot inside one of the countersinks for the neck screws, that didn't get stain. You'd need to use Rich's matchstick picture techique to see it.

The body binding has less glue residue.

I can still see some. You have to know what to look for and be looking for it. You can see it when you look at it from an angle, like the old one.
Not as bad.

The fabric around the bridge pickup was frayed again. Maybe it's from the clear plastic protective adhesive they use for shipping. It's not as bad on this one. I took care of that already.

The neck, frets, binding are good, like the old one. This one doesn't have some of the minor cosmetic bruising around the headstock that the old neck had. It also doesn't have the small dip (imperfection) on the back of the neck.

Hardware finish is on par and good. Everything is straight, including the tuning keys.

The route edges for the trem, 1/4" jack and single coil pickup are cleaner and better finished.

The single coil pickup is more perpindicular to the top then the previous example. It is also seems to be less noisy and more usable.


Things that are cheesy....

No locking post for trem.
No locking washers for the nut...was that way on the old one. TBD
Metal volume and tone knobs with plastic inserts.
Plastic knobs on Gotoh tuning keys.
Mismatched trem hardware for cosmo and black equipped guitars (all S series)
I still think fit/finish could be a little better.


I can tell the differance between the new prestiges and the other new/newer S series guitars that I've played. The prestiges do play/feel better than the lower models. I appreciate some of It's qualities over the S540LTD.



My newest S, is TOP of the current line. I've seen no S series J.Customs in the current/recent line up.

That's probably because it's not like the, more popular, RG type guitar.

I can understand that.


Anyways........

A great guitar for the money, approx. $1,000.00US street. I paid about $700 for my S540LTD 16 years ago.

I'd pay more if they made a better S.

Blah Blah blah.......
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Old 08-03-2006, 08:20 PM
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Re: Crooked Prestige


The crooked guitar did have a nice "pattern" to the top ... This one has it's qualities as well, it is more iradescent?

But...what can you do? Crooked isn't good either.

Some people will probably like the new, some the old.

It's a thumbprint. Either way.

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Old 08-08-2006, 03:43 AM
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Re: Crooked Prestige


If you got it at Guitar Center, take it back, it's there policy, you can get your money or they will order you a new one. I use to work there and they should do this for you, no prob. If not, go higher up or take it to a different store. They have to replace it or give you your money back, don't even bother about warranty. Take care...
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Old 08-12-2006, 10:55 AM
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Re: Crooked Prestige


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If you got it at Guitar Center, take it back, it's there policy, you can get your money or they will order you a new one. I use to work there and they should do this for you, no prob. If not, go higher up or take it to a different store. They have to replace it or give you your money back, don't even bother about warranty. Take care...
If you read the thread, you would have seen I already took it back. I got a new one that I am extremely happy with.

It took 3 trips to GC but they finally ordered me a new one.

The new s2170 kicks ass.
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Old 08-14-2006, 03:35 AM
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Re: Crooked Prestige


i'm interested in buying an s470 at a small local shop, but i'm kind of sketched out about it because it also has a slightly crooked zr. it's not quite like yours, though. it's only noticable in the trem cavity (the space between the trem and body). what do you guys think i should do about that?
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Old 08-14-2006, 04:33 AM
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Re: Crooked Prestige


You need to return that one too, that top is FULL OF KNOTS!! (damn burl)
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