Should I get RG3120? Already have JEM 7DBK.

[Andelusion]

What is it with people digging up old threads?

[fettouhi]

Originally Posted by Andelusion

What is it with people digging up old threads?

Because its fun .

Regards

André

[rty13ibz98]

Originally Posted by BrianH

I have to step in and root for my love... the RGT3120, I'm not saying you should get it, but it should be a contender!

... and Rich, you can actually tell I've played this one!!! I gotta get the tooth brush out to clean the fretboard already... but still doesn't have a scratch on her.. and hopefully never will!

damn, this is an old thread...i bought this rgt3120 that brian was talking about.


rich

[Chris From Singapore.]

I got a chance to try the 7DBK over the weekend here in singapore. I must say I'm pretty impressed with the playability of the guitar. The neck plays really comfortably. But the pickups were not to my liking. I played the DBK through a vintage tube fender with distortion, overdrive and chorus pedals all from Visual Sound. A key characteristic that I look out for on a guitar is the responsiveness in the tone it provides.

Whether be it on clean or distorted tones a good pickup would be able to let you hear everything. The bridge pickup was pretty good, I especially loved the in between tones, it gave me that snarly strat edge. But the neck pickup left much to be desired. It was really muddy to me, you couldn't hear all those little nuances like pick strokes.

On the whole I feel the DBK is a pretty good guitar. It's still a Jem, still a Vai guitar. I just could never justify the price for screw head inlays and a finish like that.

The 3120 on the other hand is a much better buy IMHO. There's just much more versality on that guitar. You're getting more bang for your buck.

But of course....in the end it's all ice cream!

My advice, go test it out and do an A/B

Christopher.

[Knightmeir]

Originally Posted by Rab

And wy would you do that? more balls? well the DBK is designed that way and by no means the breeds sound week. breeds=356 mV evos=404 mV. Not much difference in output there.
You need to look at dynamics also not only output, tone etc.. and the breeds got them all. Its very versatile.
Just get an rg and change its pickups to evos. This is what i did to my Prestige 1570 MRR and trust me i dont play her as much as my DBK.
Just listen to my demo album and hear the DBK in action.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/3/rabihsaad_music.htm

Jem guitars rock!

I traded my DBK a LONG time ago... in fact, not too long after I posted in this thread. I traded it for a JS1000BP, and then I sold that last month. I had purchased a 7VWH not too long after buying the DBK, and the A/B of that was Breeds are definitely a bit weaker than the EVOs. I personally prefer the way the EVOs are able to slice through everything. The breeds simply couldn't do what I was looking for. They sound good, but aren't strong enough for my tastes. As for the necks... I can feel a difference, but it doesn't matter what size a neck is, my fingers adjust without issues. On the flipside of that, the ebony over rosewood is definitely a plus.

The same thing went for the JS... great sound, but again, just not what I prefer.

I have been itching to check out some of the RGs out there such as a 3120 though... from what I've been reading, I might actually like one of them more than a Jem (just kidding... but I think it would definitely be up there).

[felipe82]

Originally Posted by Artist

always kinda say three one twenty in my head...

well I always say "treinta y uno viente" in my head , and most of the times my thoughs are much in the same line:"god I love my 3120" or "I'll never sell this guitar in my life", etc...

I really love the tone zone/mahogany combination. Distorted open chords sound soooooooo good, and with lots of balls too. The PAF Pro doesn't really do it for me though.

My other guitar is an AX1220BBK and I love it for different reasons, basically it's weight (the neck-heavy issue is no longer a problem for me). She's going to get major surgery soon tough: new bridge and tuners to match (black) and new pickups (I'm still debating between EMG or a SD JB and a Jazz duo).

So...........

buy the damn thing!

[guitarshredder7]

3120s are really nice but i want a jem

[Stormcrow]

it would be nice to hear a review of dbk&3120 with pickups changed also
both bred and both pafpro/tone zone

[SidewinderINC]

Originally Posted by Andelusion

What is it with people digging up old threads?

because it gives me a chance to go whoop, got myself a 3120, bargain basement price too! its an old one with the TW finish

probably going to replace the pups with a set of breeds, and then put the TZ and PAF Pro into my other guitar

[quik]

Good for you! I'm looking for one myself!
Now how 'bout some pics, so I can live vicariously through your acquisition?

[SidewinderINC]

yup, you sure can have some pics

http://www.jemsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38487

[quik]

Gorgeous! Thanks for the pics!!

[Ibanez-Mag]

I would say, try as many as you can of both and buy the one you like the best.

You can’t really say that one sound better then the other and it is not really a matter of taste either. There are great sounding copies of both.
Guitars are living things and two are never the same, you can pick two 3120 that are so wide apart in sound that you can find a JEM7D that would be closer to any of them.

For example, I had three 3120, but none of them sounded the same. I was having a 3120 as my main guitar at the time and wanted another one that sounded as close as possible to the first one. I went through maybe 25-30 different 3120’s and could still not find two that where the same.

When I was travelling around and did clinics did I have a JEM7DBK with me, among many other high end Ibanez guitars, and it just sounded amazing every time I plugged it in.
I had this guitar with me on clinics for about two year and tried to fight owning it because it was a JEM, I did not want Steve Vai’s guitar.
But everyone, including the audience, could hear that it pushed the sound to another level.
I always have people from Ibanez with me and they could tell what songs I played the JEM, even if the couldn’t see me. And still we had almost all other high end Ibanez with us that I also played on.
I just couldn’t fight it and had to have it.

The reason to say it is that the model of guitar don’t mean that much on how it sound (it means a lot on how it feels), it is the specific copy of each guitar that makes it good or less good.

So the best sounding “stock” Ibanez I ever played, and I played a lot of Ibanez, is a JEM7DBK. The second best is a 3120, but the third is not my other 3120’s.

So try as many as you can and find one that works for your hand, your amps and so on.

/Magnus

[sniperfrommars1]

10 points for the mahogany body, and bolted to the body pickups, not to mention they sound heavier, and you wont look like a choad playing a steve vai guitar :P

[Ibanez-Mag]

Originally Posted by sniperfrommars1

and bolted to the body pickups,

Out off curiosity, what good would that do, except for the look thing?

/Magnus