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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 02-24-2013, 03:38 PM Thread Starter
 
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PSA CL Possible scam? JS20TH

While searching for a Black Dog, I came across these.

If you are out looking for a JS20TH, be careful. I thought this was interesting.

2 different parts of the country. Houston TX and Lexington KY

http://houston.craigslist.org/msg/3640222508.html

http://lexington.craigslist.org/msd/3586966006.html

Same pics, same description, one shows the serial number, the other doesn't.

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Second one is a factory second stamped used on the headstock.
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The first one is said to be too. I noticed the same statement in each listing.

"BRAND NEW NEVER BEEN PLAYED "Discontinued model" Released in 2008 they are no longer being produced. Will have a small used stamp on the back of the head stock because this guitar is no longer under factory warranty. It is brand new never been played though and there are no imperfections anywhere. Beautiful rare piece!"
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Call the number in the one that has it and see who answers.

My #1 rule with cl is no shipping. If it isn't close enough for us to drive and meet I don't go for it. I normally trade only on cl but when I outright buy I take someone with me to watch my back. You know that drill I am sure.
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I do, just was letting others know in case they do not put the search parameters out far enough. I had it set for 2000 miles so I saw both, someone may not. Just a heads up really for someone to pay attention to the possibility of a scam.

I have only asked someone to ship something from CL once, it was for a $400 guitar. We had a phone conversation and felt good about it but ended up not doing the transaction.
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Nice heads up Satchmo,for anybody close. Seems fishy with two different locations.
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Never buy anything from anyone that uses 'stock shots' for their pictures unless its a business. A private party will 99.9999% of the time wont use white backdrops with real lighting and photo editing. Also all of the info is 'cut an paste'.


- I guess the one in Lex has 2 because there is an open AND closed case in the last pic!!!! PURE BS....ask yourself WHY they would of taken the time to take photos of the actual guitar and then use a pic of the 2 cases with all background removed? Its because they didnt take ANY of the shots and just used ones they found on the net.

Total scam and not even a good one.


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I can guarantee u the first one is not a scam. I traded my Suhr modern for this guitar and now it's on the chopping block. I just copied the ad of the guy i traded the guitar with and added real pics of the guitar.

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Do you mean the Houston one?
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Do you mean the Houston one?
Yes,the houston ad.
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I don't mind if i don't sell the guitar. This thing is beautiful,but i don't see myself playing this piece of art,and the pictures don't do the guitar justice. It is exactly what it is,a collectible,IMO..I'm not a big JS fan per se,and i thought the neck on his signature guitars are huge. I'm pretty surprised the neck on this guitar is comparable to Musicman JP6 i have.
But, i got my on a PRS Custom 24 so this has to go.
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Why would you copy someone else's ad. You should know that's a red flag to just about everyone. Scammers copy and paste ads all the time. Its their laziness that gets them busted or outed.
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Re: PSA CL Possible scam? JS20TH

I still don't see what the problem is. If someone in either one of those two areas is interested in the guitar and is able to contact the seller and meet up face to face to buy the guitar (and it turns out to be legit), then what's the issue? Most of the jemsite seasoned folks here know quite well that there are quite a few b stock JS20ths selling everywhere.

Just because you see 2 similar pictures on two separate ads doesn't mean it's a scam. Now, if the seller wanted to sell the guitar via paypal and he was local and didn't want to meet the buyer, then I would have a problem with that.

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Just because you see 2 similar pictures on two separate ads doesn't mean it's a scam. Now, if the seller wanted to sell the guitar via paypal and he was local and didn't want to meet the buyer, then I would have a problem with that.
Similar? They are the same pics!

The problem is that by posting pics you are essentially saying 'this is THE guitar' not just a 'representation'.

By using someone elses pics is deceptive pure and simple.

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I have to agree worldrecordholder. Your absolutely correct!! Its not just the pics, the words are the same too. 2 ads for the same guitar in 2 different states. Pretty strange!
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