help indentify this guitar

[Dee]

How would the 1991 RG3xx catalog help, LG? Ibanez were not using Floyd Rose II trems in 1991. The headstock logo is different. Pickguard is different: single layer as opposed to 3-ply, and the bottom cutaway -- it's rounded off on the "Mystery" RG's. The only similarity is they all have 22 frets.

The TRS trems and Edge were already very well established by 1991. Ibanez had no reason to install FRII's on any guitar. RG3xx has never used Schaller tuners. And so on...

[mike570]

IMO it could be a mutt.
IMO it's a 1991 300 series. The LoTRS2 (which we know sucks) was replaced by the FR2. The neck, from whater model it came from, already had Schaler tuners on it. The 1 ply could be aftermarket. Yeah, maybe that's reaching but stranger things have happened.
Or maybe its a custom shop one-off for a third string endorsee?
Who knows?
PS: Everything on this guitar is black too. Maybe whoever owned it said, "I want it ALL black, even the back of the neck!" So he found the parts to make it happen.

[Dee]

But Mike, there's 3 of these things (so far). How can 3 different people make the same mods to a guitar?

Again, Ibanez were not using Schaller parts in 1991. The 1991 RG350 used a TRS101 trem, btw. Not a Lo-TRS 2. How about the rounded bottom cutaway/horn? Besides, people are saying these things have not been modified. No way is this a 1991 RG3xx.

[mike570]

Originally Posted by Dee

But Mike, there's 3 of these things (so far). How can 3 different people make the same mods to a guitar?

Again, Ibanez were not using Schaller parts in 1991. The 1991 RG350 used a TRS101 trem, btw. Not a Lo-TRS 2.

It's an example of the collective subconsious! LOL!
Was the TRS101 and the Floyd 2 interchangable? Isn't Floyd 2 euqivalent in the "crap" department as Lo-TRS2? I don't have much experience with FR2.

[Dee]

Just look at the trem route for starters -- the TRS route has angled sections for the "wings". So while the trems themselves may be interchangable, the trem route tells you the Mystery RG was not built for a TRS trem at all. That's just one single detail of many that are different.

[LordGrendel]

Originally Posted by Dee

How would the 1991 RG3xx catalog help, LG? Ibanez were not using Floyd Rose II trems in 1991. The headstock logo is different. Pickguard is different: single layer as opposed to 3-ply, and the bottom cutaway -- it's rounded off on the "Mystery" RG's. The only similarity is they all have 22 frets.

The TRS trems and Edge were already very well established by 1991. Ibanez had no reason to install FRII's on any guitar. RG3xx has never used Schaller tuners. And so on...

I already know all of the facts above, but the fact that it has a 22fret neck. I thought that it might help with the origin of the neck...You didn't have to try and call me out like I'm not Ibanez savvy, it's not appreciated, like I said I was just trying to help...

[Dee]

Did you not notice that the logo is completely different?

[LordGrendel]

Yes, but is it really that hard to strip and refinish a black headstock and place a new logo...

[mike570]

Dude! LG was just trying to help!
Ultimately, who gives a $#it? None of us play this guitar, right? We're just trying to help someone else ID it and have a bit of fun along the way.

[nuno]

Originally Posted by mike570

Ultimately, who gives a $#it? We're just trying to help...

thanks for the help, but if you don't give a sh!t about it, then don't try to help just by forcing it to be a mutt. it is not a mutt. i can tell you it is completely factory made. the trem route is for the FR-II only: small plate, non-angled wings, short tail, Schaller-type string-lock bolts (OFR's are longer and won't fit the route).

also, the paint is factory job, as well as the logo. thanks for the help but it's not a mutt.

[brianxtr]

its nice that everybody helps! great!and ofcourse people think its modified,but im sure its different from my other ibanez guitars.even the pickguard screws are not the same.and i have edge/lopro/trs/trsll bridges to try,the cavety is too smal,not long enough.and the logo and the shape of the heas is different also.very strainge.but its cool to see the guitars of other people.

[Dee]

Originally Posted by LordGrendel

Yes, but is it really that hard to strip and refinish a black headstock and place a new logo...

On 3 guitars, all "modded" the same way?

Originally Posted by mike570

Dude! LG was just trying to help!
Ultimately, who gives a $#it? None of us play this guitar, right? We're just trying to help someone else ID it and have a bit of fun along the way.

Look, I know LG is trying to help, but do you understand how frustrating it is when you know you are right and someone is trying to convince you otherwise and argue points which are obviously wrong, as though they have not even read the thread and considered the details? Ultimately, I give a sh*t, Nuno gives a sh*t, and Brian gives a sh*t. This is a website for Ibanez fans. So while you may be trying to have a bit of fun, we're trying to be useful and give out accurate information to the members here and for anyone else in future who may be looking for information on these guitars. Again, I appreciate anyone trying to help, but when their information is blatantly incorrect, it is no use. Don't go shouting at me for correcting you.

PLEASE don't let this turn into another argument. I am absolutely sick of being attacked on forums recently. Let's keep the thread civilized. OK?

[mike570]

LOL! WHATEVER! It's just a guitar.
I don't need this Internet drama!

[Dee]

Then leave the thread and stop winding people up dude! I don't want to fall out with you over something so stupid Mike. Let's drop the BS.

[nuno]

ok here are other pics of the white one:






1-ply pickguard and... DiMarzios? looking better, i guess no, DiMarzios have no see-thru holes (à la Seymour Duncan)



Floyd Rose II



Schaller tuners