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Old 02-07-2008, 09:04 AM
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Then leave the thread and stop winding people up dude! I don't want to fall out with you over something so stupid Mike. Let's drop the BS.
Dee,

Reread the thread in order. LG and I were only offering our OPINIONS and YOU and NUNO lit US up! It certainly was NOT my intention to wind anyone up!
And you answered my question as to why it isn't a mutt. THANKS!
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Old 02-07-2008, 11:08 AM
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...and NUNO lit US up!
i just asked you to stop saying it's a mutt, that's all.
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Old 02-07-2008, 11:30 AM
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1-ply pickguard and... DiMarzios? looking better, i guess no, DiMarzios have no see-thru holes (à la Seymour Duncan)

Is this a V1? Looks like the same kind from an old 550. They're pointing the same way, though. Usually the screws point the other way on the bridge pickup.
An 86 prototype?
Again... just putting IDEAS out there!
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Old 02-07-2008, 12:21 PM
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Yes, I'd say it could well be a V series. My 1987 550 had pickups that looked the same. I gave them away so I can't double check, but I'd definitely guess V series.
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Old 02-07-2008, 01:37 PM
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Nobody really should be taking offense to the suggestion that this was a mutt/ parts guitar. That's actually one of the more likely possibilities when an oddball like this shows up.


A couple of things that stand out here.

I know you guys are hoping it's some rare MIJ prototype that's worth it's weight in gold but...


The body has MIK contours.

The bridge routing does not fit the typical MIJ bridges & is indeed recognizable to me as a factory FR2 route (more below)

Those are not V series pickups. The pole pieces are different, as well as the bobbins.

The Schaller tuners are not something Ibanez used... (see below)

The contour of the back of the headstock is not typical for any MIJ RG neck.

The locking nut does not appear to be Ibanez but FR.. Ibanez's nuts of the peroid has more sloppy fitting clamps than that.


Neither of the posters who say they have one are in the U.S. so we should be looking at old catalogs from europe etc.


Now for my opinion on what it could be... (&why)

An early MIK Ex series marketed only in Europe.


The main reasons I suggest this:

The Schaller/FR hardware

The shape of the contours on the body & neck.

& most importantly the fact that throughout the 80's I worked for a company that imported nearly the exact same guitar. It would be exact except for VERY subtle changes in the shape & of course the brand name on it.

This IMO was built in the same Korean factory as the old Kramer Strikers & Phantoms etc.... I easily recognize the type of routing & painting techniques like it was just yesterday.....It was my job to do the setups/repairs & nearly every one needed fairly major work after spending 3 months on a container ship so I saw the insides of litteraly thousands of them. That factory also had deals with Schaller for bringing the FR2's & tuners into Korea to be installed on thier production guitars of any brand they produced for a fee.

So in summary I suggest it's a MIK Ex/ RG that appears to be original.
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Old 02-07-2008, 01:52 PM
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This IMO was built in the same Korean factory as the old Kramer Strikers & Phantoms etc....
<hurl!>
I thought that black finish and the fretboard looked familiar.
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Those are not V series pickups. The pole pieces are different, as well as the bobbins.
The pickups are exactly the same as my originals on my RG550. They are not the same as current V series, but they were changed somewhere along the line anyway. My original 550 pickups had a set of regular screw heads and a set of plain slugs, no different to these. I will have to get a pic of one and post it up if I can. I've seen various early 550's with different pickups, black poles and silver.

PS: I never said or hoped these guitars were MIJ or worth their weight in gold. They are rare, and that's for sure. What I am saying is they are not RG350's from 1991.

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From what I saw on the catalogs on Rich's site, the 20th 550's are virtually the same V1 and V2s. Same TZ-like pole configuration, only in both instances they were black, not chrome. That's what made me think prototype RG.

540S;
Was that black and the black on the Stryker polyester? It seems to have that same slightly cloudy black. Maybe it's just me. I'm trying to remember reeeeeeeeally far into the past. LOL!
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My original 550 pickups had a set of regular screw heads and a set of plain slugs

The poles on your 550 pickups were chrome?
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Old 02-07-2008, 02:06 PM
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Yeah! Chrome. As I said, I'll try and get a pic posted up at some point. The problem is I gave the pickups away (only last year) and I would need to see the guy who I gave them to and ask to take a picture.
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If Dee got his original RG in England with chrome V1/2's could you narrow this down as a Europe exclusive? Maybey they used the same source for pickups. Wasn't there a Euro factory before?

EDIT: This is a brain fart. Dee's 550 would be MIJ!
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There were two 550's at the store. My mate beat me to the DY which I was planning on buying, so I ended up with RFR (which I was happy about when I saw it in person and I became an RFR addict after that). Both guitars had the same pickups. I never saw another 550 with the same pickups after that, if I remember correctly they all had black poles.
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Yeah! Chrome. As I said, I'll try and get a pic posted up at some point. The problem is I gave the pickups away (only last year) and I would need to see the guy who I gave them to and ask to take a picture.
I have the same problem... I hold on to stuff for what seems like forever & when I finally admit to myself I should scrape the years of dust off & actually get rid of something I find some obscure need for it


IMO... the poles on those pickups appear to be slightly larger than the V series pups... again IMO & it's going by the pics we have available in this thread... so take that for whatever it's worth I suppose


Nuno.. Since you have pics with the guard off did you take any pics of the bottom of the pickups?

If so was the wiring color code green, yellow, white & brown? (the color code for Schaller pickups)
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Old 02-07-2008, 02:31 PM
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Nobody really should be taking offense to the suggestion that this was a mutt/parts guitar.
offense? i have many mutt guitars and i'm proud of them. i can't get why should we take this as an offense.



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I know you guys are hoping it's some rare MIJ prototype that's worth it's weight in gold but...
who does? i don't really care about where it comes from and i do know it's a MIK cheapo. i just would like to know what model it is and what year. that's all.



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The bridge routing does not fit the typical MIJ bridges & is indeed recognizable to me as a factory FR2 route

The Schaller tuners are not something Ibanez used...

The contour of the back of the headstock is not typical for any MIJ RG neck.
these points were arlready clear, read the posts above. anyway, thanks for the help. no doubts it's a MIK.
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Old 02-07-2008, 02:36 PM
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I think the best bet would be to google for older Ibanez europe catalogs.... My guess is something will turn up there.
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