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IBANEZ 2013 (who has the inside scoop)

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#1 ·
IBANEZ 2013 (who has the inside scoop)! What will be new,,what to be expected for us ibanez fans who just cant wait. :p anyone know post here :D
 
#15 ·
I would like to a prestige, or premium with a pickguard, and rosewood fingerboard.
I missed the RG2550z discontinued out of stock due to a credit card malfunction. but luckily found a used one by luck for 500 bucks. customized though.

all the prestiges that have pickguard are maple fretboards, and no premium has a fretboard, except anni models.

I made my own premium by butchering an 870.
 
#18 ·
that would be awsome, only problem is it will be to expensive compared to a prestige model, even you needed to customize the prestige it would still be cheaper.

if the price was comparable to prestige, or J. Custom, I would order one. just the way I want it.

and they should incorporate your signature into it.
sort of like a signature model, to make unique and valuable
 
#28 ·
I sure hope they do - I could use the press! I'm sure they feel the same way...

There's a ton of picture takers & press in the room on setup day, I always give interveiws and allow pics. I want the dealers lining up Thursday AM early!

However, the reality of it is I probably won't have time. I had pics of the 70 last year and never got them up..

BY THE WAY RICH - it would be nice to meet you this year.
 
#29 ·
They would never appreciate any representaive of any other brand revealing anything of theirs. There is nothing cool about that. And all the press there, none of them release anything day before. Nothing is ever released till the morning of the show. They have enough problems with hackers in their picture folders without having to worry about competitors at the show before the doors open.

I was going to hit the Philly show but got caught up that weekend.
 
#33 ·
They would never appreciate any representaive of any other brand revealing anything of theirs. There is nothing cool about that. And all the press there, none of them release anything day before. Nothing is ever released till the morning of the show. They have enough problems with hackers in their picture folders without having to worry about competitors at the show before the doors open.

I was going to hit the Philly show but got caught up that weekend.
I wouldn't say it was "hackers" in their picture folders.

It's pretty standard procedure to change file names to find more pics.

If you see rg1xxv.jpg, it makes sense you would try rg2xxv.jpg and see if it exists. That's not hacking :lol:

If anything, it was Ibanez's fault for putting things online before they were to be released.

It takes two seconds to upload an image. They could've easily waited until release day to make the pics available.

It's just like if you see a pic of a hot chick online called hotgirl06.jpg, you're just going to try hotgirl07.jpg and see if that's anything.

That's not hacking :lol:
 
#32 ·
We're doing some stuff that's moving in that direction, while still trying to keep our original design asthetic.. We've got a Railhammer loaded, no pickguard w/ trem, 25 1/2 scale bolton hitting next year. I'll post some pics when they're in my hands...
 
#34 ·
You call it what you want, I'll call it what I consider it is. NObody has any business looking in their folders for anything they haven't made public yet. NObody has any right to decide when a company's material should be released, only the company has that right, ever. And don't kid yourself, RG2 is nothing compared to what wiki starts posting weeks before anybody wants it to be, and if you think they're not hacking you're not thinking.

Pictures are loaded for many reasons long before they're linked on the web. And you blame Ibanez for these hackers with nothing better to do than try and spoil their plans?! :roll:
 
#36 ·
You call it what you want, I'll call it what I consider it is. NObody has any business looking in their folders for anything they haven't made public yet. NObody has any right to decide when a company's material should be released, only the company has that right, ever. And don't kid yourself, RG2 is nothing compared to what wiki starts posting weeks before anybody wants it to be, and if you think they're not hacking you're not thinking.

Pictures are loaded for many reasons long before they're linked on the web. And you blame Ibanez for these hackers with nothing better to do than try and spoil their plans?!
I run dozens of websites. There is no way I would upload anything I don't want people to see to a public folder.

If people were able to find the pictures, then the folders were made public. (If people hacked into protected folders then that is new information to me and I retract my previous statement.)

It was poor planning on Ibanez's part.

Rich, I understand you work with Ibanez and are probably contractually bound to not agree with anything I'm saying, so I'm not trying to convince you of anything.

I'm just saying, it's pretty a pretty basic rule of web design to not upload anything into a public folder that you don't want people seeing, especially with an obvious filename.

It's like when car companies are transporting their new models, they cover them with tarps and other materials to hide their true design because they don't want people knowing what they look like yet. How foolish would it be to just leave a new car sitting out in the parking lot and then get mad when people took pictures of it? That's what Ibanez did, leaving their obviously-named image files in a public folder.
 
#37 ·
And it's pretty obvious if somebody is snooping in a folder they don't have permission to be in, and then making what they find public, it's wrong, it doesn't matter what the permissions of the forlder are set to, it's wrong. And I wouldn't agree with anything you say because you can't seem to understand that basic premis.

And if you claim to know exactly what they did then you must have had a hand in the hacking.
 
#38 ·
And if you claim to know exactly what they did then you must have had a hand in the hacking.
Wow

Any guy with a little bit of internet knowledge who has ever looked at porn knows exactly what they did. I even already gave the example. You see hotchick07.jpg, you instinctively look up hotchick08.jpg and see if it exists

(Note: this was more an early 2000s thing before using random filenames became more commonplace, although they're still often sequential)

As I understand it from another thread on another forum, that's all they did. Someone saw rg1xxv.jpg and instinctively tried rg2xxv.jpg, and it worked. Or maybe they saw rg1xxv.html and they instinctively tried rg2xxv.html. Same basic idea. Then Ibanez found out and removed the files. To the best of my knowledge (what I learned from the other thread), they were not hidden, there were no privacy settings, and there was no "hacking." It was just changing a file name to see if the new one existed.

Now, if someone actually hacked into Ibanez's website, cracked passwords, changed permissions, or somehow got access to something that wasn't in a public folder, then that's new to me. And yeah, that would be pretty unethical and bad.

But if Ibanez put it in a public folder and it was discovered by changing a 1 to a 2 in an image name? Then no one did anything wrong. That's normal internet behavior.

It's like if you're on a car website and the URL is domain.com/cars/2011/Honda/Civic and you are seeing info about the car, but your car is a 2012 Civic and you want info about that particular model, and you just go up to the URL bar and change the 2011 to a 2012. That's not hacking
 
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