NAMM 2012

[IbanezFreak777]

Originally Posted by IbanezFreak777

I know that model, and thought of it before making my statement and I didn't think it was neon... is it ?

Cause I meant neon/fluro paint jobs

Originally Posted by Rich

so is it a neon or not ?

[Petie]

When you consider that the 8 string market is very much into spending big dollars on handmade customs, I think Ibanez is doing this the right way by using Sugi instead of just making a Meshuggah-like Indonesian RG. Sure it's expensive but it has to be in order to be exactly the guitar the Meshuggah guys play, and an an Indonesian version, though no doubt a potential seller, wouldn't appeal to that corner of the market as much as the Sugi-made monster.

[TAorama]

Originally Posted by IbanezFreak777

so is it a neon or not ?

It's not. Bright yellow, but not neon.

Here's the pink. Also bright, but not neon.

[Rich]

I would have to ask what makes "neon" neon. Were they trans shot over white? I don't know, I didn't bother to chip one to see what was underneath. Are the coming "Fluorescent" neon or not? WTF exactly does constitute "neon" anyway? Blindingly bright colors are blindingly bright colors. You all can get caught up putting labels on them and arguing what they are or not.

[Jack Secret]

Mikey was right about the yellow and pink JCustoms for a store in Japan. I believe there was only 6 of each.

[TAorama]

Good point. Hard to quantify "neon." I guess it's synonymous for "really damn bright!" I thought the JC's were just "basic" pink and yellow. Sharp colors, but didn't think they were as bright as SK or the original DY, or RFR. When I think of "IBZ neon," that's just kind of what I think of. But yeah, I guess it's semantics.

[germX]

RG3521- definitely on my want list for 2012. Not a whammy bridge fan lately...

[Rich]

Originally Posted by TAorama

Good point. Hard to quantify "neon." I guess it's synonymous for "really damn bright!" I thought the JC's were just "basic" pink and yellow. Sharp colors, but didn't think they were as bright as SK or the original DY, or RFR. When I think of "IBZ neon," that's just kind of what I think of. But yeah, I guess it's semantics.

The company that made those paint for Ibanez in the 80's has been out of business for a decade, and those paints would not be allowed for use in modern day Japan either with their much more strict clean air laws. This is why you see variations on DY so far that really haven't been that close. Now I don't doubt they can shoot paint in Indo they could never shoot in Japan, and maybe why those are looking pretty vibrant.

[psychoshredder]

Originally Posted by Rich

The company that made those paint for Ibanez in the 80's has been out of business for a decade, and those paints would not be allowed for use in modern day Japan either with their much more strict clean air laws. This is why you see variations on DY so far that really haven't been that close. Now I don't doubt they can shoot paint in Indo they could never shoot in Japan, and maybe why those are looking pretty vibrant.

you can shoot anything toxic in indo, 'enviromental friendly' or 'go green' means nothing to industry here.

[psychoshredder]

Originally Posted by Rich

The M8M's are Sugi, and everything Sugi is going to be that expensive. Those are the best guitars Ibanez has built.

what is Sugi, Rich?

Another builder for Ibanez besides Fujigen?

[steinberger95]

Originally Posted by Petie

When you consider that the 8 string market is very much into spending big dollars on handmade customs, I think Ibanez is doing this the right way by using Sugi instead of just making a Meshuggah-like Indonesian RG. Sure it's expensive but it has to be in order to be exactly the guitar the Meshuggah guys play, and an an Indonesian version, though no doubt a potential seller, wouldn't appeal to that corner of the market as much as the Sugi-made monster.

well, first off, you are already wrong. because the "meshuggah guys" use an ibanez custom shop with a 30" scale, not 29.4", made by nevborn. so nothing about this beside the paint, neck through, lundgren pickup, tone volume config is right. freds also has a kahler trem on it now. not that locked edge. he also has one with the same configurations, but 2 pickups instead of just one. unless he got rid of it.

and for those of you who dont know, nevborn is not in japan, or anywhere near it. its located in sweden. and i am pretty damn well sure they didnt pay $4800 for theirs. but you are correct about these guys who admire them dropping penny after penny on custom guitars, but atleast their 8 strings are their own. custom fitted to their thoughts. not some bland 8 string made to someone elses design and wants. you have to admit, and ill even admit. i love the guitar, and i love meshuggah, but that guitar is as plain as a gray wall.

Edit: actually, sorry for the rant. they USED to use nevborn. you are correct. sorry for my ignorance haha i guess you need to be caught up on things before ranting.

[steinberger95]

Originally Posted by Rich

I would have to ask what makes "neon" neon. Were they trans shot over white? I don't know, I didn't bother to chip one to see what was underneath. Are the coming "Fluorescent" neon or not? WTF exactly does constitute "neon" anyway? Blindingly bright colors are blindingly bright colors. You all can get caught up putting labels on them and arguing what they are or not.

so... do you work for ibanez? or what?

[mike570]

Originally Posted by germX

RG3521- definitely on my want list for 2012. Not a whammy bridge fan lately...

Pretty awesome but it needs a single coil in the middle I think.

[TAorama]

Originally Posted by steinberger95

Edit: actually, sorry for the rant. they USED to use nevborn. you are correct. sorry for my ignorance haha i guess you need to be caught up on things before ranting.

You're lucky I type slow...

[Rich]

Originally Posted by psychoshredder

what is Sugi, Rich?

Another builder for Ibanez besides Fujigen?

http://www.sugiguitars.com/

Originally Posted by steinberger95

so... do you work for ibanez? or what?

Sometimes