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11-26-2005, 11:15 AM
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RG dilemma (mostly bridge-related)
Hi all, a long-time reader posting for the first time. I'm thinking of buying an Ibanez RG, but I'm not sure which model I should go for.
Based on what I've read around here, RG550's are great bang for the buck. The original Edge is apparently considered to be the best Ibanez bridge. The thing is, I have played hardtails and strat-type trems all my life, so I don't really have any personal experience in floating trems. That makes me wary of buying an up to 16-year-old guitar which, I imagine, could have a trem with all kinds of defects by now.
Another option is the RG1550. The bridge is an Edge Pro, which is considered good, but not as good as the original Edge (no locking studs anymore). These are newer than 550s and have less risk of having harmful amount of wear 'n tear, especially on the bridge. They also have the all-
access neck joint
, which I like a lot.
And the last option is biting the bullet and buying either a RG1570 or RG2550 new. The trem would be intact and the store would probably throw in a free setup. It'd be more expensive than buying used, but at least I'd have a smaller chance of getting a bad guitar. I'd really like a
maple fretboard
though, a feature these two models don't have.
Here in Scandinavia there's a high demand for older RGs, so the prices aren't as low as in U.S. eB_y. Also they pop up a lot less often.
In a nutshell, what I'm wondering is
-Should I look for Edge, or is Edge Pro enough?
-Is there a big risk that the older RGs' trems are beaten up to the edge (sic) of replacing?
-Is the old RG550 contoured heel a lot clumsier than the new AANJ?
Probably a boring topic for most RG gurus, but tips and pointers would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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11-26-2005, 11:32 AM
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Re: RG dilemma (mostly bridge-related)
Can't answer most of that, but a lot of RG550s had AANJs. Mine does, and it's great.
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11-26-2005, 12:08 PM
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Re: RG dilemma (mostly bridge-related)
The Edge Pro is a fine bridge. The problems that arise are usually due to the lack of
locking studs
, yet I have met a lot of people that haven't complained since. Make sure you inspect everything on a guitar before you buy it, especially the bridge. As for the neck joint issue, yes, the AANJ has a better feel when you're using the upper register of the neck. But you'll get used to the old
scarf joint
in time (for what it's worth, the JS series don't have the AANJ). The best way is to try out the guitars that you're interested in for yourself. That way you can decide much better.
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11-26-2005, 01:55 PM
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Re: RG dilemma (mostly bridge-related)
i have a 570 that doesn't have the aanj, plays fine. I have bigger hands though so reaching around isn't as for me as others.
a good indicator of the bridge's condition is how much wear it has on the top. If it has a bunch of pitting you can assume that the guitar was played a lot and the chances are higher that the tremelo was used more.
Also what i have found with the older model rg guitas is the necks and frets are a concern. Alway be sure to ask about neck and fret condition even if it is stated in the auction get as much info on the neck and fret condition as possible.
an rg1570 used on the bay wouldn't be too bad, i have seen them go on E-bay U.S. for around 325 to 350 , not much more then a used 550 or the older 570.
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11-26-2005, 06:39 PM
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Re: RG dilemma (mostly bridge-related)
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deadlock78
Hi all, a long-time reader posting for the first time. I'm thinking of buying an Ibanez RG, but I'm not sure which model I should go for.
Based on what I've read around here, RG550's are great bang for the buck. The original Edge is apparently considered to be the best Ibanez bridge. The thing is, I have played hardtails and strat-type trems all my life, so I don't really have any personal experience in
floating trems
. That makes me wary of buying an up to 16-year-old guitar which, I imagine, could have a trem with all kinds of defects by now.
Another option is the RG1550. The bridge is an Edge Pro, which is considered good, but not as good as the original Edge (no locking studs anymore). These are newer than 550s and have less risk of having harmful amount of wear 'n tear, especially on the bridge. They also have the all-access
neck joint
, which I like a lot.
And the last option is biting the bullet and buying either a RG1570 or RG2550 new. The trem would be intact and the store would probably throw in a free setup. It'd be more expensive than buying used, but at least I'd have a smaller chance of getting a bad guitar. I'd really like a maple fretboard though, a feature these two models don't have.
Here in Scandinavia there's a high demand for older RGs, so the prices aren't as low as in U.S. eB_y. Also they pop up a lot less often.
In a nutshell, what I'm wondering is
-Should I look for Edge, or is Edge Pro enough?
-Is there a big risk that the older RGs' trems are beaten up to the edge (sic) of replacing?
-Is the old RG550 contoured heel a lot clumsier than the new AANJ?
Probably a boring topic for most RG gurus, but tips and pointers would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Read Rich's tech section Ibanez Rules (banner above)
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Regards
André
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11-26-2005, 10:25 PM
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Re: RG dilemma (mostly bridge-related)
Find a newer RG550, I'd say. They made them upto 2002. They still have the original Edge, and the AANJ. Even with the
locking stud mod
on the Edge Pro, it's still less stable than the Edge.
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11-26-2005, 10:28 PM
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Re: RG dilemma (mostly bridge-related)
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Even with the
locking stud
mod on the Edge Pro, it's still less stable than the Edge.
You keep saying it and it's still wrong every time you do.
The EP with stud mod is EVERY BIT as stable as any Edge or Lo Pro.
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11-27-2005, 01:18 PM
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Re: RG dilemma (mostly bridge-related)
I am posting from my own experiences, not that of others. I've gone through many Edge Pro's, and none of them have worked to my standard.
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11-27-2005, 01:51 PM
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Re: RG dilemma (mostly bridge-related)
So am I, and I've gone through a few HUNDRED
Edge Pros
now, and every one of them has been every bit as stable as any Lo Pro or Edge.
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11-27-2005, 02:11 PM
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Re: RG dilemma (mostly bridge-related)
You might consider getting an RG520QS as well, if you like the sound of mahogany. Also very high value for the price.
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11-27-2005, 02:47 PM
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Re: RG dilemma (mostly bridge-related)
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So am I, and I've gone through a few HUNDRED Edge Pros now, and every one of them has been every bit as stable as any Lo Pro or Edge.
Well, I've said it before, it might just be my luck.
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11-27-2005, 03:09 PM
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Re: RG dilemma (mostly bridge-related)
Then kindly refrain from trashing a whole bridge system because you have lousy luck [or, don't know what you're doing, because it has nothing to do with luck].
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11-27-2005, 07:07 PM
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Re: RG dilemma (mostly bridge-related)
Nope, my setup is perfect. As far as I can see, it's either the bridge, or my luck. Now let's get back on topic...
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11-27-2005, 07:10 PM
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Obviously if it's not as stable as a Lo Pro then there's nothing perfect about it. Yet you continue to trash the EP every chance you get. Fix your problem and maybe you'll quit spreading incorrect information.
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12-01-2005, 04:49 AM
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Re: RG dilemma (mostly bridge-related)
Thanks for the replies people. I guess I'll try to find one of the last 550s made, that way I'd get Edge, maple fretboard and AANJ. Might as well go for the best/favorite combination, since I probably wouldn't part with the guitar anytime soon...
The info at Rich's tech section made me a bit more confident that I can spot at least some of the potential problems the bridge might have. Having never owned a FR-type guitar I guess picking one up used and possibly unseen is a bit of a dice roll, but hopefully it works out OK.
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