the new iceman

[adio_stack]

im in love with my IC400 and im intrested in the new IC700. anyone know the specs? is it pretty much the same as the 400 but with deactivators? whats the street price gonna be? anyone got more pics of it?

[atimoc]

Rich has some pics in his NAMM report:
http://www.ibanezrules.com/namm/2008/xpt_ic.htm

Street price in Europe seems to be 700 euros, so it's probably a bit cheaper in the States.
http://www.thomann.de/fi/ibanez_ict700_wh.htm

[scotte_za]

i hope they bring these to SA

[Jemwielder]

Nice looking axe. I wish I would've held out. Because the two improvements I would've made to an iceman are now available. The first being giving it a thru body bridge. The other being to give it a floating trem (sam totman model.)

[GP13]

i want the black one!

[Starbreaker]

Originally Posted by adio_stack

im in love with my IC400 and im intrested in the new IC700. anyone know the specs? is it pretty much the same as the 400 but with deactivators? whats the street price gonna be? anyone got more pics of it?

IC400 = Made in Korea
IC700 = Made in Indonesia (barf)

IC400 = classic Iceman specs ala 22 frets, set neck, paralleogram inlays, 3+3 headstock, stop bar/tunamatic 2 vol, 2 tone, Ibanez humbuckers.

IC700 = neck thru, 24 frets (yuck), reverse lightning bolt inlays (yuck), reverse 6 in line headstock (yuck), string thru body, 3 way located with 1 volume & 1 tone controls instead of at the top (yuck), DiMarzio pups.

Nowhere near the same as the IC400. And in *MY OPINION*, the IC700 is an abomination.

[kotornut]

Originally Posted by Starbreaker

IC400 = Made in Korea
IC700 = Made in Indonesia (barf)

IC400 = classic Iceman specs ala 22 frets, set neck, paralleogram inlays, 3+3 headstock, stop bar/tunamatic 2 vol, 2 tone, Ibanez humbuckers.

IC700 = neck thru, 24 frets (yuck), reverse lightning bolt inlays (yuck), reverse 6 in line headstock (yuck), string thru body, 3 way located with 1 volume & 1 tone controls instead of at the top (yuck), DiMarzio pups.

Nowhere near the same as the IC400. And in *MY OPINION*, the IC700 is an abomination.

Really? I think it's an improvement. Id trade my RG560 for it.

[David McCarroll]

really, if you are gonna get an Iceman:

http://www.guitarrez.com/usedhtml/usdibzicj100wz.html

nort cheap, but as cool as they come!

[Dee]

Originally Posted by Starbreaker

IC400 = Made in Korea
IC700 = Made in Indonesia (barf)

IC400 = classic Iceman specs ala 22 frets, set neck, paralleogram inlays, 3+3 headstock, stop bar/tunamatic 2 vol, 2 tone, Ibanez humbuckers.

IC700 = neck thru, 24 frets (yuck), reverse lightning bolt inlays (yuck), reverse 6 in line headstock (yuck), string thru body, 3 way located with 1 volume & 1 tone controls instead of at the top (yuck), DiMarzio pups.

Nowhere near the same as the IC400. And in *MY OPINION*, the IC700 is an abomination.

I'm with you. An Iceman with a 6 in line headstock? This is just WRONG! I'd take the 400 any day.

[Jack Secret]

You durn purists!


Yeah, I gotta agree. Old headstock looks much better with Icemans.

[LordGrendel]

Originally Posted by kotornut

Really? I think it's an improvement. Id trade my RG560 for it.

...Now that's crazy, trading an original Wizard for a 2008 Wizard II. I would never trade my RG560, not me, not in a thousand years...

[kotornut]

Originally Posted by LordGrendel

...Now that's crazy, trading an original Wizard for a 2008 Wizard II. I would never trade my RG560, not me, not in a thousand years...

Yeah I hadn't thought about the neck, in that case no way. But I am so tired of trem already, and I'd like a guitar that wasn't based on the strat for once.

I just can't understand why people think trem is so essential, for me it's a cheesy sound effect and a hassle whenever you are setting up the guitar.I was just venting my frustration about it.

Please remeber this is my opinion.

[LordGrendel]

Originally Posted by kotornut

Yeah I hadn't thought about the neck, in that case no way. But I am so tired of trem already, and I'd like a guitar that wasn't based on the strat for once.

I just can't understand why people think trem is so essential, for me it's a cheesy sound effect and a hassle whenever you are setting up the guitar.I was just venting my frustration about it.

Please remeber this is my opinion.

...That is beginning to be a major issue these days with guitarists. I know it's not the 80's or even early 90's for that matter, so the TremNastics aren't what it used to be anymore, but I swear by mine, I can't live without it, probably because I know how to use it properly. Maybe everyone who buys a guitar with a floating/double locking tremolo should get a video with their guitar on how to use it properly and how to setup as well...Just a thought...So my advice to you is "START SAVING!!".

[screamndemon69]

I wonder if the new 700 series is more neck-heavy than the 400 series (which is very neck-heavy)

I moved the strap button to the side by the neck (from the back of the body by the neck joint) and it is still a little neck-heavy (or body light ).

[kotornut]

Originally Posted by LordGrendel

...That is beginning to be a major issue these days with guitarists. I know it's not the 80's or even early 90's for that matter, so the TremNastics aren't what it used to be anymore, but I swear by mine, I can't live without it, probably because I know how to use it properly. Maybe everyone who buys a guitar with a floating/double locking tremolo should get a video with their guitar on how to use it properly and how to setup as well...Just a thought...So my advice to you is "START SAVING!!".

Yeah, but honestly over here in Japan no one wants to play with a foreigner so I just play at home and I am not much of a collector type so what I got is good enough. I can set it up now I figured it out, but for me the sacrifice of sustain and stability isn't worth it for me. That's the main problem, setup is just a hassle but anyone that isn't an idiot can learn it.

I'm just a different type of player than the usual Ibanez player I guess. I think more like Paul Gilbert than Steve Vai. If you can make trem useful than more power to you, just for me it doesn't add mush to my style so I really would rather not have it.

Anyhow, back on topic, I think the original headstock was better looking on an Iceman but, I don't thin this headstock ruins the guitar. It's cool too.


I think they should make a prestige of every body type just so you don't have to buy a low end guitar to have a specific body shape you like.