The true reason of ZR trem mounted only S series

[ZRmaster]

Hello,everyone.
Do you know why ZR is mounted only S?
The reason is ridiculous for me. Ibanez wanted a new feature of S against RG because S series didn't have features without thin body any more.
And they also think 'RG with Floyde is traditional', so they consider if they put ZR on RG,consumers will be confused. Therefore they will not mount ZR on RG in future.

But I think players want to get better bridge. And ZR is more advanced than EDGE PRO.
Their opinion is '1 series's trem should be only 1 type'.

How do you think about it?

[jemsite]

Originally Posted by ZRmaster

Do you know why ZR is mounted only S?

mostly 'cause people running ibanez have a penchant for being clueless about such things

obviously they have no confidence in selling ZR trems... they're rather stick to the 80's double-lockers and dirt cheap bridges on their plywood axes.

rhetorical question - why does ibanez not have a high quality "vintage" trem available on any above-mediocre quality ibanez? ... glen

[Petie]

I'm heartbroken, I was really hoping that some day soon I'd be able to buy an RG with ZR trem. All they need to do is market it better and people would want it. There should have been a dedicated campaign in guitar magazines to announce the ZR and what it does. If people just knew more about it maybe they wouldn't be so hung up on 'traditional.'

[Two hands31]

I think they said that they were thinking about doing an RG with a ZR in the future, but wanted to see how people liked it first. Not sure why they used the S as a guinny (sp?) pig so to speak, but the S-series guitars are just as they've always been, just with a new bridge and finishes and inlays, etc.

[Rich]

Double lockers are double lockers, the ZR is also. It's absolutely NO better than the Edge/Lo Pro/Edge Pro, it's just "different" in that it uses a ball bearing fulcrum and includes another version of a "Tremsetter" in the system [that IMO is a much better feeling trem with this disabled].

[Two hands31]

Wow...look at the timing of the replies in this thread (considering there were no replies when I started typing mine )

[Two hands31]

EDIT How did I manage a double post 1 minute apart?

[caprile]

Originally Posted by jemsite

rhetorical question - why does ibanez not have a high quality "vintage" trem available on any above-mediocre quality ibanez? ... glen

The Wilkinson-Gotoh on the AT200-300 is great IMHO.

As for the ZR thing, it's obviously a marketing issue. The average RG player wants an Edge, that's why the fixed bridge RG's hadn't done so well. Maybe the S is aimed to a more 'open' market, where a GREAT innovation such as the ZR might be well received.

[Two hands31]

Originally Posted by caprile

Maybe the S is aimed to a more 'open' market, where a GREAT innovation such as the ZR might be well received.

I was trying to say that exact same thing but couldn't get the words to work

[jemsite]

Originally Posted by caprile

The Wilkinson-Gotoh on the AT200-300 is great IMHO.

Yup, but it needs to be on more Ibz axes ...glen

[Petie]

I've read ZRmaster's posts with interest... you seem to have a lot of inside knowledge about the ZR.

[horstausmforst]

Umm.. Is this thread based on thoughts or on facts?

[Texter]

Well can we still order a separate unit and install it on any guitar we want? (no matter how difficult it might be...)

[Rich]

2 in parts stock right now, but if it's anything other than a build from scratch you'd have alot of work)

[ZRmaster]

OK,I have a question.
RG is a "classic" or "progressive"guitar?
In other words, RG should not be changed in future like strat and LP?
Because Floyde's diving play is not modern but old style in recent music.If RG is continued as it is, RG will be old-style guitar.