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07-13-2008, 08:50 PM
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Tremolo Stoppers
Has anyone out there installed anything to make their
floating tremolo
a little less "floating?"
I have a pair of something called the Goldo Back Stop, and so far this project isn't going as easy as planned. For starters, the instructions are in German.
I'm wondering if anyone else has gone through a project like this, and might have any tips, tricks, or pointers.
Thanks in advance.
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07-13-2008, 09:15 PM
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Re: Tremolo Stoppers
I'd suggest a tremel-no. Much better feautures than anything else I've seen out there. To go from hardtail to dive only to full floating in a few seconds is an awesome feature.
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07-13-2008, 09:27 PM
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Re: Tremolo Stoppers
Try this
http://joe.emenaker.com/TremStabiliz...tallation.html
I think it was done by a member here if I am not mistaken.
Also, in order for the two of those to work like a backstop I would imagine the measurments for both in adjustment must be
exactly
the same. Any error on either one will throw one side off from the other.
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07-13-2008, 09:57 PM
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Re: Tremolo Stoppers
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Try this
http://joe.emenaker.com/TremStabiliz...tallation.html
I think it was done by a member here if I am not mistaken.
Also, in order for the two of those to work like a backstop I would imagine the measurments for both in adjustment must be
exactly
the same. Any error on either one will throw one side off from the other.
I was thinking of putting one of these on my Rg since I like to sit, lean back and play but the strings go sharp
by measurements do you mean spring resistance on the unit or where it is in the route?
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07-13-2008, 10:13 PM
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I mean the measurments on how the goldo thing is adjusted. He tried using two but didn't work right. If one side is adjusted different than the other it could cause the return to be off.
When I had my backstop in my RGT220a I used Digital calipers to get the setup exactly the same on both springs down to the thousands of an inch.
If you dont' wammy much laying down then perhaps the tremelo no thing will be good for you.
I found having the adjument
perfect
in the backstop made all the diff in its performance.
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07-13-2008, 10:39 PM
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ah, does that mean it has to be centered in the route? and have the middle spring moved to a side or something?
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07-13-2008, 10:46 PM
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ah, does that mean it has to be centered in the route? and have the middle spring moved to a side or something?
Which one are you talking about? Some ibbys came with a special route for the backstop and that part of the CNC program I read stayed in the making of the bodys. If the backstop rubs the center spring you get problems as you would expect. If that is the case then gettin rid of that spring or body routing would be needed. With my RGT220a the route in the cavity was low enough I had no problems but other guitars do not have the space for it.
With the other trem devices I have no personal experience with them but have seen pics of folks having to offset springs or using only two springs.
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07-13-2008, 10:50 PM
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Which one are you talking about? Some ibbys came with a special route for the backstop and that part of the CNC program I read stayed in the making of the bodys. If the backstop rubs the center spring you get problems as you would expect. If that is the case then gettin rid of that spring or body routing would be needed. With my RGT220a the route in the cavity was low enough I had no problems but other guitars do not have the space for it.
With the other trem devices I have no personal experience with them but have seen pics of folks having to offset springs or using only two springs.
I was speaking of the Esp and Goldo Box,
http://i11.****img.com/04/i/07/c8/83/e2_1.JPG
(evilbay)
I guess If I get one I'll have to offset my springs but no problem
The Goldo is cheaper but shipping might make it as much as an ESP Arming Adjuster if I have to get it from UK. So I might order an ESP AA from Rich
That Installation page you posted should help me and the OP, thanks
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07-13-2008, 11:24 PM
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Go Here which is the main page of tremstabilzers
http://joe.emenaker.com/TremStabilizers/
One of the best for that subject I have seen.
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07-14-2008, 12:38 PM
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Re: Tremolo Stoppers
I thought I was really careful putting the two in, but one if off by just a really little bit.
I also over-compensated for the felt stopper piece. The rear of the bridge is up a bit instead of being level.
And then to add to all the fun, when I push almost all the way down on the wammy, there's a cracking sound, and it sounds like its comming from the nut at the end of the fret board.
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07-14-2008, 01:32 PM
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Make sure your nut screws are tight. When you wammy down the of course lose their tension between the bridge and nut. They still have tension between the tuners and nut.
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