wtf is with these new non trem, locking bridges??

Ki swordsman · #1 05-20-2006, 07:51 AM

i see a few ibanez endorsees using this locking bridge like an edge but seems totally fixed...
and i'm just wondering............why???

tell me it's just me or there's some great reason behind using them..

i mean you could get a good nut and great or locking tuners instead and have great tuning stability still, ease of string changing+tuning and freedom to change tuning
regular fixeds seem good enough for everybody else..

so do you think it's overkill or am i missing something?

NormalPerson · #2 05-20-2006, 08:42 AM

u mean on the mick thompson sig? i have no idea

lyconxero · #3 05-20-2006, 09:30 AM

The fixed edge gives you the advantage of fine tuners and is still the most meticulous system for tuning to my knowledge. There are plenty of other methods out there but to each their own.

**jono** · #4 05-20-2006, 09:38 AM

They're also probably the most ergonomic fixed bridge EVER. If you're thrashing away there's nothing on the Edge FX to rip up the side of your hand.

If I was in the position to require Ibanez to make me a fixed bridge guitar, I'd be demanding this piece of hardware too.

toneboy · #5 05-20-2006, 09:58 AM

There's also a Satriani model, the JS1200, that has the Edge FX bridge.

On one hand, I like having the fine tuners and the tuning stability of a locking nut. On the other hand, setting the intonation and individual string heights on the Edge is a pain in the butt compared to the fixed Strat bridges like the one on the PGM301.

brothersnowgone · #6 05-20-2006, 10:36 AM

I don't think it's overkill. In fact changing them from what they are to locking tuners would be just the same, but I like having a locking nut. It's more stable than locking tuners because you cut them off at the nut, whereas with locking tuners the strings can still change tuning because of the added length for them to stretch and the contact between the string and the area the string is touching the locking post causes friction and the string can somewhat catch the post. And after playing for a while the string can move over that area and change tuning, just not the case if you lock it right at the nut. I've had this experience with the guitar I have setup with locking tuners. Hope I made made that clear enough to where I'm not the only one who gets my giberish

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Ki swordsman · #7 05-20-2006, 10:53 AM

yeah i get that it's uber tuning stability, i just wonder if it's just me that thinks it's overkill seeing as it limits everything else and everybody else gets by just fine without it

oh i assumed the stock version would be setup with good tuners or lockers, it's hypothetical

Mr. S · #8 05-20-2006, 11:33 AM

personally if i had the the chance to have one i would, tho id still prefer a floating edge (mabye with a tremel-no) , i mean i find edge trems to be the most comfortable bridges out there

JTM45 · #9 05-20-2006, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jono

They're also probably the most ergonomic fixed bridge EVER. If you're thrashing away there's nothing on the Edge FX to rip up the side of your hand.

If I was in the position to require Ibanez to make me a fixed bridge guitar, I'd be demanding this piece of hardware too.

Nicely said Jono!
I couldn't have put it better myself.

I would love it if they made a 7-string version of the FX Edge.
It's a pity Ibanez don't sell the FX Edge by itself.

Cozi101 · #10 05-21-2006, 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toneboy

There's also a Satriani model, the JS1200, that has the Edge FX bridge.

JS2000.

rastachild · #11 05-21-2006, 03:29 PM

i don't like them. i think you get the same tuning stability from a guitar with locking tuners that have 18:1 gear ratio and a fixed bridge, if the guitar is properly set up. even guitars with standard trems should maintain tuning stability if the guitar is set-up well. the reason i prefer regular fixed bridges is because of the ease of string changes.

Ki swordsman · #12 05-21-2006, 08:43 PM

phew i was beginning to feel very lonely in here

i had no idea most of you guys would go for this thing? i just can't seem to justify double locking with a locking nut if i don't have a trem

brothersnowgone · #13 05-21-2006, 09:02 PM

That's perfectly fine and we all have our different taste's. I've just have better tuning stabilty in the past with a locking nut than locking tuners. I'm not saying locking tuners aren't just as good, because they are. It's just in my experience the tuning stability is ever so slightly more stable (to the point of most people not noticing) that's why I like it better. I'd like it even better if I could get a guitar with a normal hardtail, string thru (with some kind of fine tuner) and a locking nut.

babahi · #14 05-21-2006, 09:10 PM

The tuning stabiliy is certainly a plus on that bridge, but no one here mentioned the loss of sustain compared to a fixed bridge. Fixed bridge with locking tuners would be my choice in that situation. Perhaps with a rolling/lube nut if loss of tuning is an issue.