John Petrucci Music Man Tremolo

einarabelc5 · #1 08-21-2009, 05:02 PM

Hey guys,
just one simple question how does the tremolo compares against an Edge?

Thank You.

Kramerman · #2 08-22-2009, 12:35 AM

Well, from what I've read, it's basically a floating version of a vintage style tremolo. On a petrucci guitar, it stays in tune well because the guitar has locking tuners. In my opinion, no tremolo can match the old style Edge trems.

THEE HAMMER · #3 08-22-2009, 01:20 AM

It's simple, changing strings takes all of 5 minutes, all the surfaces are smpth and there are no fine tuners to mess things up.
You can dive bomb just as well but pulling up isn't going to be quite as roomy as say ... A Jem.
It stays in tune super well and I can change tuning from eb to drop b in a flash like I never could with my 760 or s540 with original edge, duento the nut lock.

Some people like having Allen wrenches around at all times, Chris Broderick, Petrucci, and vintage vinnie Moore , and I don't.

In short it's genious for idiots like me and top tier players too.

Yea it's easy to clean as well.

einarabelc5 · #4 08-22-2009, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by THEE HAMMER

It's simple, changing strings takes all of 5 minutes, all the surfaces are smpth and there are no fine tuners to mess things up.
You can dive bomb just as well but pulling up isn't going to be quite as roomy as say ... A Jem.
It stays in tune super well and I can change tuning from eb to drop b in a flash like I never could with my 760 or s540 with original edge, duento the nut lock.

Some people like having Allen wrenches around at all times, Chris Broderick, Petrucci, and vintage vinnie Moore , and I don't.

In short it's genious for idiots like me and top tier players too.

Yea it's easy to clean as well.

Great, thank you!!

What about the Frets? Compared to JEM's 6105 and to RG Jumbos.

teokiatuan · #5 08-22-2009, 03:06 AM

love the trem on my jp6

are you thinking of getting one?
do yourself a favour and get it!!

evolvedmb · #6 08-22-2009, 07:47 AM

The trem on the JP is killer for the reasons that THEE HAMMER stated.
Make sure to get the piezo version as well, it's worth every penny IMO.
Nicest guitar I've ever played/owned, and the quality is top-notch.

jono · #7 08-22-2009, 09:47 AM

I passed on the EBMM JP guitar as although it was a farily nice guitar, at the time I didn't think it held up against some of the competition out there and couldn't jusfify geting one, "just to have".

The trem works just fine though, and as long as you don't "try" to put it out of tune the ones I've ried have been as stable as any other trem I've tried.

teokiatuan · #8 08-22-2009, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jono

I passed on the EBMM JP guitar as although it was a farily nice guitar, at the time I didn't think it held up against some of the competition out there

hmm how so?

tzoranski · #9 08-22-2009, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by einarabelc5

Hey guys,
just one simple question how does the tremolo compares against an Edge?

Thank You.

I have to disagree with mostly everyone on this page when it comes to
the JP-6 tremolo. I've played Jem's and UV's for more than 15 years and
I love the edge tremolos. I'm a huge Petrucci fan and I was looking for a
new guitar. I wanted to get something a little more laid back looking than
a jem so I decided to check out the jp-6.

All and all its a great guitar. Fast neck with jumbo frets and very low action.
Unfortunately I bought it without really paying close attention to the tremolo
though. My problem with it is it's not double locking. Which means the strings
thread through the bottom of the tremolo on the back of the body. They are
not fixed to the tremolo like on the Edge or Floyd. I never realized how
important this was until I owned the jp-6.

The tremolo is a big part of my playing. It's in my hand all the time. I don't
mean that I'm doing crazy divebombs all the time but I use it to blur notes
by quickly pushing down on it as I go from note to note. When I tried this
with the jp-6 I noticed a major difference. Because the strings are not attached
to the tremolo they move a little out of place which does two things. First it
caused the pitch not to drop as low and as fast. The strings moving out of place
actually fights against the dropping of the pitch. The second thing I noticed was
the tuning would be a little out because when the ball of the string when back
into place it was never exactly the same. There are no fine tuners on the guitar
so it was kinda annoying to have to tune it again. There were also a bunch of
other minor differences between the double and single locking tremolo's that
bothered me. I noticed the tremolo didn't flutter like a Edge or a Floyd. All of
these things added up to me selling the guitar just months after I bought. Now
I know how important a double locking trem is to me. Lesson learned.

jono · #10 08-22-2009, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by teokiatuan

hmm how so?

I was putting it up against my other HH rock guitars, which are JS1000s and a JS10.

I think it was simply that it wasn't any better than what I already had, so I didn't rack up the sale.

I'll say that if I'd not got/tried it against the JSs I'd probably have bought it.

teokiatuan · #11 08-22-2009, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jono

I was putting it up against my other HH rock guitars, which are JS1000s and a JS10.

I think it was simply that it wasn't any better than what I already had, so I didn't rack up the sale.

I'll say that if I'd not got/tried it against the JSs I'd probably have bought it.

Ah so that's what you mean.

True,true, they're pretty similar guitars...

**jaxadam** · #12 08-22-2009, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by einarabelc5

Hey guys,
just one simple question how does the tremolo compares against an Edge?

Thank You.

The EBMM JP model is a nice guitar, and the trem on it is actually decent.

It is really nothing like an Edge, though. It's really nothing like any type of Floyd Rose variant. It's more like a Fender style trem.

I don't know what all of the rage is about this trem. Yes, it stays in tune due to the locking tuners, and yes, it floats, but it really doesn't have the "feel" of a Floyd, or an Edge for that matter.

THEE HAMMER · #13 08-23-2009, 12:00 AM

which is great for me because i don't like floyds at all...
I much prefer a vintage style fender trem warbles and a few heavy divebombs are all that i do in the trem department and having a complicated unit that my palm messes my playing up a tad since I learned almost everything i know on a lp, my heavyhandedness alone messes up the tuning on my other floating bridge guitars.

I agree to the jp6 being hyped, but then again so was his Ibanez model (still is sort of) but it's the gigging guitar for me. (no allen wrench needed to drop 2 whole steps in 30 seconds)

-No it's not an edge
-For some people it's a lifesaver
-To some it's blasphemy... but then again they can get an axis or a steve morse for giggles