7 string guitars out of style?

[skattabrain]

you misunderstand me. i was responding to what is a new term to me - "nu metal". i don't watch mtv, i'm more underground ... industrial actually, but slipknot is plastered over every metal magazine all the time. i heard slipknot a few times and didn't care for them enough to "recognize them by sound alone" and that gimic they have turns me off ... i'm not 13 anymore.

what i was trying to get across is 7 string guitars seem to be associated with the style of bands korn helped get popular. now that people are disenchanted with these bands, they are throwing out 7 strings with it. no disrespect to korn, the first album was a revelation (altought they failed every time after that if you ask me).

via played 7 strings and really got the 7 string going, but you must admit that korn and the like is the reason so many 7 strings sold in the past years.

i didn't mean to offend slipknot fans, i wasn't trying to fuel a debate that can't be won. everyone has and has a right to a differernt musical taste and opinion.

we also have to realize, most of the people on these types of boards are the crowd that can do things with 7 strings above and beyond low and heavy power chords. we aren't the fuel that made racks full of $350 7 strings in every make and color. the fewer and fewer models of 7 strings is inevitable now that the main source for the sales is disappearing. (they are now rushing to buy 6 string baritones by ESP)

[Dylan7620]

i understand and agree completly. thats why i asked for you to expand on that idea before this turns into another thread where we argue over nothing("ur bands suck big balls, no ur bands suck big balls more!"). lol

actually, i wanst into them at all until a few months ago... i was thrown off by the masks and devil metal thing but listening to their new album let me see how much groove and technicality can be in a band so heavy.(at least to me) anyways..

i totally agree just as vai came out with the universe when he was very much mainstreem then the music scene changed and no one wanted one, then korn gets big and everyone wants one again.. then another shift in the music scene and no one wants them anymore.
it will take another new band to work its way to the top with 7 strings if they are ever going to be that popular again.. im not to worried because thats whats comfortable for me to play, they sound awesome and im diggin the low prices too

what really confuses me is why so many six stringers dont like them. 5 string basses are plenteful and i see as many of those if not more than 4 strings now. but i never hear a 4 stringer rag on a 5, why is that?

[skattabrain]

they don't associate 5 string basses with S&M/Horror masks

i must say though, i'm new to my 7 string, i love it ... but where it's my only guitar, i'm craving buying a new 6 string prestige just so i can play at my full comfort zone.

but then again, forcing me to play it will probably be the best thing to break me out of my comfort zone.

[Societysucks]

I find the more musical styles you expose yourseld to and embrace, the more instruments you begin to require in order to attempt to master each respectively.

Boy do I miss the days where a 4 string bass and a 6 string guitar would do me fine, but I believe having a choice is way more important.

As long as the music exists people will continue to master what they hear and make more, so extended range instruments will always be around.

[Grev]

I would want an 8 string baritone.

[The Hiryuu]

Originally Posted by Dylan7620

actually, i wanst into them at all until a few months ago... i was thrown off by the masks and devil metal thing but listening to their new album let me see how much groove and technicality can be in a band so heavy.(at least to me) anyways..

Slipknot has technicality? And they're heavy? News to me.

[Dylan7620]

if you read there in my post you quoted i say (at least to me) making this comment above relative so it would be news to you. if you are saying this to have me retort at the defense of a band that is not underground and does not play solos in every song which of course means that they lack any sort of artistic credibility in the music world or heavy metal world than i am simply not interested in discussing it. however, if you wish to explain to me why this is news to you instead of making a naive comment by just stating a very vauge opinion, go ahead

[Polaris20]

Originally Posted by The Hiryuu

Slipknot has technicality? And they're heavy? News to me.

You're either ignorant, a smartass, or both.

[The Dark Wolf]

Originally Posted by The Hiryuu

Slipknot has technicality? And they're heavy? News to me.

While I could play Spliknot's music in my sleep on guitar/bass, or sing it, I have two words for you in regards to "technicality."

Joey Jorgenson.

I dare you, tell me he isn't technical.

[Societysucks]

Originally Posted by The Hiryuu

Slipknot has technicality? And they're heavy? News to me.

Slipknot have technicallity, their work on the subliminal verses proves that, and as for being heavy I believe thier music speaks for itself.

From thier onset they intended their live performances to be a "wall of sound".

This is very evident in the work on Mate, Feed, Kill, repeat, which is one of the best fusion albums I've heard in my life.

when you see them live the percussion comes at you from 3 ways.

Believe me, if you're just going to make ignorant comments about everything on this site without so much as even backing them up you arn't going to make many friends around here.

my advice to you is to wise up and consider giving a valid critique rather than making stupid statements.

[toshiro]

Why are we talking about Slipnot in a 7-string thread? Can I never get away from hearing about them?

[Polaris20]

Originally Posted by Societysucks

Slipknot have technicallity, their work on the subliminal verses proves that, and as for being heavy I believe thier music speaks for itself.

From thier onset they intended their live performances to be a "wall of sound".

This is very evident in the work on Mate, Feed, Kill, repeat, which is one of the best fusion albums I've heard in my life.

when you see them live the percussion comes at you from 3 ways.

Believe me, if you're just going to make ignorant comments about everything on this site without so much as even backing them up you arn't going to make many friends around here.

my advice to you is to wise up and consider giving a valid critique rather than making stupid statements.

Very well put.

[The Dark Wolf]

Originally Posted by toshiro

Why are we talking about Slipnot in a 7-string thread? Can I never get away from hearing about them?

A. Because we like talking about them and
B. Nope.

Societysucks, the "wall of sound" thing is right on. I have the Slipknot "Disasterpieces" DVD and holy SH*T those guys put on a helluva live show. And it sounds just absolutely brutal.

[toshiro]

Originally Posted by The Dark Wolf

A. Because we like talking about them and
B. Nope.

This is why I've got a GF who doesn't like metal, I don't have to worry about clashing tastes.

I'm gonna go listen to some Carcass bootlegs or MA's Entangled in Chaos. At least they play in B, or use 7 strings, so they're on topic.

As to the validity of the 7 string, the new Nevermore will rule, and since Schecter nabbed Jeff Loomis they're gonna be more associated with 7string metal guitars than Ibanez is in the future. IMO, at least.

Not that I want a Schecter, mind you. I'd much rather have an RG1077. lol

I'm not gonna bash Slipnot, but I will say that we have different definitions of what brutal is.

[skattabrain]

i played a Schecter a few months ago - it felt like plywood.