Korn 7-string

[tagg 7]

I deal with the signature modle topic in this way.
The people I look up to are individuals. Steve Vai, Joe Satriani, Yngwie Malmsteen... etc they may have signature modles now, but they didnt get famous that way.

I admire them as Individuals, and thats what i strive to be.

buzz

[cmartin]

Buzz- That's a great point, and I'd have to say I agree with you. I'm partial to the Prestiges and J-Customs myself. I dig the high-end Ibanez guitars that you can "make your own" without being pegged a wannabe or hero-worshipper.
Unfortunately there aren't that many options for a 7-string player looking for these types of guitars. Now suppose the K-7 is a really slick machine, but says "Korn" on the headstock... that would really make it a tough sale for me. Two strikes against it: 1) sig model of any type 2) not only associated w/, but representing an act I'm not too fond of. I would hate too miss out on something I might like though for such shallow reasons.
(This is all just hypothetical BTW, the description of the trem leads me to believe the K-7 won't be my cup o' tea anyhow)
The announcement of the Korn guitar just got me thinking, and I guess I was curious to hear how others react in a similar situation. Do people that dislike Satriani ever buy JSs? Are there Petrucci bashers that swear by JPMs? Any pickers out there armed w/ Jems/UVs that feel Steve Vai is the most tasteless, self-indulgent, too-many-note spewin' entity in the music world this side of Christina Aguilera?

[lgascoig]

I think the answer to the question of whether people buy signature axes from players they don't like is almost for certain "yes".

There are a great deal of people who don't like "shredder" music but still buy the usual suspect shred axes (JEM, JS, JPM, etc...) I believe because of the sound and high quality components.

Given that, I would never buy a Korn model unless there was no evidence on it to indicate that it came from Korn. *Even still, I probably wouldn't buy it. *It isn't that I hate the music or anything, some of it I listen to from time to time but I sure don't think of them as guys I would want to pattern my playing after.

My experience with the signature models is that the one that feels best to me is the JPM which is the model of the guy who's playing style I like the best. *I find I also like the JS better than the JEM in terms of how it feels to me. *That's not to say that I don't like the JEM but after playing on a JPM with the larger fretwire and then switching back to the JEM which has roughly the same style/size neck it seems more difficult to play (especially with the single coil in the middle and the volume knob right by the bridge ). *The JS has a totally different neck and I find the smaller fretwire doesn't bother me as much. *I used to like JS's music a lot but when I bought my JS I hadn't listened to him in 3-4 years. *Same goes for Vai, although I was never a huge fan of his music.

[UNIVERSAL ONE]

Does anybody know where I can see some pics of this guitar or where I can get more info on it. To me, it's not who's name is behind the making of the guitar, but rather how it is made and how it sounds. Don't let names fool you. I know people who don't like Vai (they should be in the padded rooms for that) but they love the sound of the JEM's. One of them is thinking about purchasing a DNA. But if anybody has any other info on these, please reply via jemsite or e-mail.

[Noodles]

Thank you Universal One, you saved me a lot of writing. To cmartin no way does it matter, well a least not as mush as you think it does. If fact I was gonna start saving up for a jem if it were not for the K-7 and I'm not a Vai fan. I would wait til after I get the jem but I don't know if the K-7 will still be in production after this year because of that kind of response to it being a "Korn" model.
What happen to being open minded. All I ask is how do you judge your guitars? Do you judge it by how it plays and looks or what it says in small letters on the headstock. As for tagg your right and that came out wrong I was just trying to explain why they might have picked PAF 7 pickups.


(Edited by Noodles at 1:05 am on Jan. 2, 2001)

[tagg 7]

Man I think it all comes down to the fact that Ibanez is not gonna make a crapy guitar. If this thing has binding, minimal frets, and PAF's it will kick the solar crap out of a RG620 (thats not to say i wouldnt like the option between the two *then agiain i already have a couple 620, and a modified 621, and i love my 2027, and and then there is my freaking PRS custom)
anyway the thing im trying to say is I dont care if its got two pigs going at it doggystyle on the 12th fret the thing will still rock.

Wait do you guys think they would change the neck.

buzz

[Noodles]

They will probably use a universe neck. Then again you never know. Does anyone have the stats on the neck? Any dealers out their know any more? My biggest concern is the price.

(Edited by Noodles at 5:25 am on Jan. 2, 2001)

[cmartin]

How do I judge my guitars?
In a large number of ways... the feel of the neck, the tone of the wood combinations, the pickups, the pickup configuration, the trem, the number of strings, the manufacturer and my past experience w/ their products, aesthetics, shape, vibe, etc.
Putting a "Korn" label on the guitar is a very small and superficial part of the whole as I've openly admitted, but it does effect the overall vibe and aesthetics. Man, I'm not going to spend $1000+ on something unless its right up my alley.
Perhaps our ears and hands should be the first things satisifed by a new guitar, but I would guess the general vibe and aesthetics of a guitar are also pretty important to most the visitors of Jemsite. A lot of what makes a Jem a Jem is exactly that.
Maybe I'm not entirely open minded when it comes to the K-7, and I'm trying to struggle through that. But, it seems that maybe you aren't either Noodles, as you sound as if you have decided on buying a K-7 based on nothing more than a few scetchy details and the knowledge that it is a "Korn" guitar. Maybe its not important whose signature guitar it is, but if this particular guitar was rumored to be the "Z-7" and not tied to Korn, would you already be making plans to purchase it?

[Rich]

You'll find the K-7 is aimed directly at those that want a Korn model no matter what it is. Just as the long list of those waiting for the EBMMJPM to buy JUST because it'll say JP on the headstock. Many times the details aren't as important as the 'hero worship'.

[stoopid]

I don't like the idea that they make a 7-string based around Korn, I think they should release a good fixed bridge 7. I always prefered the fixed ones. And yes, I play universes( blocked edge ), though I have absolutely nothing to do with Steve Vai or other schredders.

[Rich]

They did make a good fixed 7, the 7621, I think I sold 3 of them in 2 years. Ibanez is market savy and I'd bet they sell a helluva lot more K-7's than they would fixed 7's.

[stoopid]

Yes, i know! I collect RG7621's, too bad it's hard to find a M-bol.

[Noodles]

Yes I have decided to buy it already for two reasons first one is the same reason that I'm sure some Vai fans bought the DNA Jem because as a collecter item and the second reason is I have yet to a guitar that I could not adapt to(this excludes any with 8 or more strings which has a neck that is a half a foot wide at the nut). Of course I will try it out first but I doubt it will have any affect on my choice to buy it. Now that I have thought it through more I guess I see your point it would have a slight affect of my feel about a guitar if it said Garth Brooks on the headstock. I'm not saying Garth Brooks sucks I'm just not into his music. *

(Edited by Noodles at 11:52 am on Jan. 2, 2001)

[Noodles]

Does anyone know if Ibanez will still sell the Lo Pro Edge 7 in black by it's self even if the new Korn model(or any other high end 7-string for that matter) does not just in case something happens to my 7620's trem?

(Edited by Noodles at 12:02 pm on Jan. 2, 2001)

[Rich]

They still sell the Black Chrome Lo7 and they haven't used it in years.