Meshuggah 8 strings r finished!

[Given to Fly]

How much do one of those cost?

[btweensunandmoon]

you've got to have big a$$ hands to grab onto that tree trunk. I think these guys need to learn to play a six string before they go onto a seven or even an 8. I mean....whats the point? 8 strings just gives them more options for creating mindless noise. I certainly hope this isnt the direction that popular music is going into. Basically, 10,000 years ago if neanderthals had ibanezes, the result would sound just like meshugga.

[Jupiter]

Originally Posted by btweensunandmoon

you've got to have big a$$ hands to grab onto that tree trunk. I think these guys need to learn to play a six string before they go onto a seven or even an 8. I mean....whats the point? 8 strings just gives them more options for creating mindless noise. I certainly hope this isnt the direction that popular music is going into. Basically, 10,000 years ago if neanderthals had ibanezes, the result would sound just like meshugga.

Heh, yeeeeeeah......
Fredrick Thorndendal has complete command of the instrument, that's all there is to it. He is a god. You've obviously not listened to enough Meshuggah. If you were to listen to the first few seconds of some of their songs { especially off of Nothing, the new album }, then yeah, i can hear he cromagnum grind you speak of. But are you telling me that playing the amazing polyrhythms and warped time signatures that they do so very well sounds primative? Meshuggah writes some of the most rhythmically complicated music ever heard. I bet if he was alive to hear it, Zappa would probably $h!t a brick over the polymetrics they do. I'm not one to out-and-out say that someone's views are wrong, but it's impossible to listen to their music and deny that they have talent. Here's some of Fred's solos to hear before you say that he has yet to master a 6 string...
-The slow solo in 'Cadaverious Mastication'
- The main solo in 'Ritual'
- Stengah
- There's some insane two-hand tap in 'New Millenium Cyandie Christ'
There's many many more... anyone have any suggestions?
Oh, and Meshuggah is HARDLY an indicator of the state of popular music. .
Ben

[The_Grindfiend]

Whoa, Man! You forgot my favorites, The Mouth Licking What You've Bled and Corridor of Chameleons. Corridor... is probably my favorite, and Glints Collide (which is probably my favorite Meshuggah song period) off of Nothing has a really good one, too. Also, the solo in Closed Eye Visuals is unbelievable. Very tasteful, and a lot slower than the typical Meshuggah solo. Yeah, they've had a tremendous impact on my lead playing. Just unbelievable.

[guitarkatana]

Meshuggah started making great music on 6 strings, then 7 strings, and now the 8 strings . Mindless noise you say, I often find myself getting very bored with modern standards for musicians. I'm always looking for obscure, different acts like Meshuggah. Nile is great, Spiral Architect is f*ckin great, and there are many more great bands/artists out there to check out! After listening to strange stuff for a while, I come back to more standard, socially acceptable styles of music and find a newfound love and respect for it, as well as the experimental and obscure stuff. Be sure to listen to all of Meshuggah's music, study where they individually came from and where they're working to get before talking down on them.

Come on dudes, its just like your first incounters with 7 strings. You just get used to playing the darn things. It's the same with 8 strings, you just have to get used to bringing more of the hand in front of the fretboard, not too difficult.

[guitarkatana]

Hey, don't forget songs like "Sane", "Straws Pulled at Random", "Nebulous", and "Future Breed Machine". Ohhhh, the joys of metal. :P

[germX]

twohands got it- that bridge looks like the MMM... why can't they just do the string-through likewise? also, the humbucker's pole pieces aren't aligned with the strings, maybe that should be addressed too...

why the fuss over an 8-string you say? that's because the meshuggah players need them, as opposed to the bandwagon thing that happened to the 7-string. IMO there won't be an 8-string explosion, it's now a niche rather than being fashionable.

[Two hands31]

I think they wanted the fine-tuning option, hense why there was no string-through.

Oh, and the polepieces lining up doesn't really matter.

[bryangraye]

Where'd the large pic of the bridge come from? Can't see it on meshuggah.net.

[Blues-core]

Where'd the large pic of the bridge come from?

I did a little spying around the directory where the pics were and found it

[bryangraye]

Originally Posted by Blues-core

I did a little spying around the directory where the pics were and found it

...and they said they didn't have space - pah!

[Jim Soloway]

I'm not sure why everyone is so worked up about the bridge. I suppose it would have been a little prettier with some plating, but from a purely functional standpoint it makes a lot of sense. There's obviously a trememdous amount of front to back movement allowed for intonation of the two lowest strings, something that I would love to have on every 7 string. As for being dangerous, I don't recall the last time my hand touched the bridge while I was playing, but even it if did, as long as the edges are filed smooth it shouldn't be any more dangerous than a basic Les Paul style tunamatic bridge.

[pawel]

Hmm...i guess there must be a good reason behind the bridge looking like that, otherwise it wouldn't be there....so i'm sure the guys from Meshuggah don't see a problem with it. As for 8-strings in general, I still think that if you're going 8-strings, the Charlie Hunter way is the way to do it...

[guitarkatana]

Nah, Charlie Hunter's method is different, his is a guitar/bass mix. Meshuggah's is a guitar with really freakin low notes. Charlie's method may not work so well for Meshuggah.

[trajectory fish]

I aggree with guitarkatana. The CH 8-string is actualy a bass-guitar/guitar hybrid, while the Meshuggah 8-string is an extended range guitar. Though, personaly I prefer Charlie Hunter over Meshuggah any day. (And yes, I have seen both of them live, but I admit I've only heard one Meshuggah recording.)