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Old 08-22-2008, 10:17 PM
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Advice/opinions wanted!


Hi folks, got a steal on a warmoth strat with custom flip-flop finish and I also got a free bonus neck with the deal, a pretty much brand new mighty mite birdseye maple neck. I've been debating as to whether or not I should swap necks (I'm used to rosewood fretboards but the birdseye maple one has some neat figuring and a skunk stripe in the back which I very much like the look of). Also, since I play em but don't do any tech stuff at all...is it even possible to mount a 22 fret neck on a body that's currently got a 21 fret neck? Here are some pics to help ya decide. Thanks in advance everyone .







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Old 08-22-2008, 10:18 PM
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Re: Advice/opinions wanted!


If you got it then do it. If you don't like it then just switch it back.
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Old 08-22-2008, 10:30 PM
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That's true I suppose but as i said i dont do any of the tech stuff so Id have to get someone to do it, which in all likelihood will cost me dough. I was just curious as to whether people prefer rosewood FBs on strats or maple.
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Old 08-22-2008, 10:46 PM
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As long as the frets are cool all you would need to do is swap hardware over. You might have to intonate it and/or mess with neck shims. Both are no biggie.
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Old 08-23-2008, 06:21 PM
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Re: Advice/opinions wanted!


I'm trying to remember details from some 21 to 22 fret conversions I've looked at over time...

If I'm not mistaken (which I could be), you're looking at 2 scenarios for the neck swap: both necks will either have the same scale length or they won't.

***The easy check for this would be to lay the necks face to face matching up the nuts and seeing if the frets line up all the way down- if they don't, they're... well, they're different ;-)***

1. If the 21 and 22 are the same scale length then the extra fret is going to be on an extended overhang of the fretboard. In this case (and I think this is the more common of the two) there may be a need to remove part of the pickguard where the overhang rests so that the fretboard isn't on top of the pickguard (not usually designed for that, although yours might be different).

2. If the 21 and 22 are different scale lengths then you're in for a bit of luthiery- you'll have to determine the scale length and either route out the neck pocket or move the bridge (or maybe just the saddles) to compensate for the difference. Otherwise, you'll never be in tune.

Since the Warmoth body (super sweet, btw) and the birdseye Mite (also super sweet) are probably both built to a standard strat scale, you're probably just looking at trimming up the pickguard (which is easy enough but would look bad if you ever switched back). That looks like an EMG Dave set, and if it is, they're pretty attached to the pickguard from what I remember. Still, it might be worth it to consider hacking away at a new pickguard and transplanting everything if you thought you might go back to the 21 frets.

Good luck, congrats on the sweet deals, and if there are errors in my thoughts here, others are most welcomed to provide the right info- we're all in this together ;-)

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Old 08-23-2008, 06:25 PM
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I know you really were just asking a preference question, but I think you could save some dough if all you have to do is trim up the pickguard, and saving money is always a good thing!

And to answer your original query, I've got a maple on my main strat and I l-o-v-e it! Seems to bring out the best aspects of the whole instrument. I've got rosewood on two others and they just don't do as much for me, but to each their own .
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Old 08-30-2008, 03:41 AM
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Re: Advice/opinions wanted!


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I'm trying to remember details from some 21 to 22 fret conversions I've looked at over time...

If I'm not mistaken (which I could be), you're looking at 2 scenarios for the neck swap: both necks will either have the same scale length or they won't.
No. There's only one scenario. All Fender spec necks are the same scale length (25 1/2"), and with same pocket position -- i.e., they are fully interchangable.
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Old 08-30-2008, 03:06 PM
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No. There's only one scenario. All Fender spec necks are the same scale length (25 1/2"), and with same pocket position -- i.e., they are fully interchangable.
Well, yeah, all Fender Strat spec necks are the same but I wasn't sure that the particular neck in question was built to Fender Strat specs. Being a custom jobby, mighty mite could have made it with a shorter Gibby scale or inbetween PRS scale or anything else. If MM necks are built to Fender specs (and I haven't looked at 'em enough to know) then yeah, there's just the one scenario...
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