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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 01-01-2013, 01:36 AM Thread Starter
 
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Any successful clearcoats over Magic Marble paints out there?

I've seen some decent looking swirls on youtube done with the Magic Marble paints, but I haven't seen any clear coated....that I know of

I've read that clearcoat eats this stuff right off the guitar.... So anyone here have any success with these paints?

I want to do a PAW swirl for myself and I don't think the Humbrols are going to get bright enough for what I want...
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Re: Any successful clearcoats over Magic Marble paints out there?

Imo the hardest part of any build is the clearcoat. It can totally wipe out any any swirl or painted finish in seconds if done wrong.
The easiest and most problem free for me has been Nitrocellulose in rattle cans but it takes many many coats to level out contours and raised areas such as swirls. I couldn't tell you if its compatible with the paints you mention.
The quickest build up and drying paint I've used is Spraymax 2K in rattle cans but I've had hit and miss results with this , mainly with air bubbles forming after spraying .
Hope this helps.

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Imo the hardest part of any build is the clearcoat. It can totally wipe out any any swirl or painted finish in seconds if done wrong.
The easiest and most problem free for me has been Nitrocellulose in rattle cans but it takes many many coats to level out contours and raised areas such as swirls. I couldn't tell you if its compatible with the paints you mention.
The quickest build up and drying paint I've used is Spraymax 2K in rattle cans but I've had hit and miss results with this , mainly with air bubbles forming after spaying .
Hope this helps.
Thanks for the info... I've had really good success with Krylon Fusion Clear and automotive high gloss clear from automotivetouchup.com over swirls and everything else really...

I'd still be curious to see if anyone has been able to clear over Magic Marble
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Re: Any successful clearcoats over Magic Marble paints out there?

check out andyt and his swirls with onehot enamels. very bright and you can use 2k clear on them.
also i used minwax polyurethane on alot of swirls starting out. dries in 1 day and in a rattlecan.
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check out andyt and his swirls with onehot enamels. very bright and you can use 2k clear on them.
also i used minwax polyurethane on alot of swirls starting out. dries in 1 day and in a rattlecan.

I was just checking out YOUR swirls on Youtube and found the 1shot paints advice... I'm going to order up some 1shot... looks very promising!

Thanks for the info man!
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Re: Any successful clearcoats over Magic Marble paints out there?

Just ordered some of the fluorescent green, fluorescent pink, chartreuse, and black 1shot paints to try out...I will be more than happy to share my results here....
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Just ordered some of the fluorescent green, fluorescent pink, chartreuse, and black 1shot paints to try out...I will be more than happy to share my results here....
Looking forward to it man........... those 1shot's look nice!!


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Thanks for the info... I've had really good success with Krylon Fusion Clear and automotive high gloss clear from automotivetouchup.com over swirls and everything else really...

I'd still be curious to see if anyone has been able to clear over Magic Marble
Krylon Fusion Clear does not work
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Re: Any successful clearcoats over Magic Marble paints out there?

The 2k clear works great. The rustoleum I tried first didn't ruin the swirl but it just didn't stick to it and began flaking and cracking.
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The 2k clear works great. The rustoleum I tried first didn't ruin the swirl but it just didn't stick to it and began flaking and cracking.
What brand is the 2k clear you used? I read you could also use a 2 part automotive clear over Magic Marble.
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Re: Any successful clearcoats over Magic Marble paints out there?

I used eastwood but I think the spraymax will work as well. If I'm not mistaken I think the 2k clear is an automotive style 2 part clear coat. There is a button on the bottom of the can that you need to push in in order to mix the 2 parts. After that the can is good for 6 or 8 hours, I forget exactly how long.
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I used eastwood but I think the spraymax will work as well. If I'm not mistaken I think the 2k clear is an automotive style 2 part clear coat. There is a button on the bottom of the can that you need to push in in order to mix the 2 parts. After that the can is good for 6 or 8 hours, I forget exactly how long.
I appreciate it, I'm going to give it a try.
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Re: Any successful clearcoats over Magic Marble paints out there?

Hey man I have a suggestion. I heard on another guitar website that Rustoleum fast dry enamel works. Its supposed to go over any paint and dries in a hard finish. Then hit it with some wet sanding and you should have one shiny guitar.
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Hey man I have a suggestion. I heard on another guitar website that Rustoleum fast dry enamel works. Its supposed to go over any paint and dries in a hard finish. Then hit it with some wet sanding and you should have one shiny guitar.
I tried the Rustoleum fast dry on a test piece and it didn't lift the paint but it kind of blended the colors together. It was the best one by far out of all the ones I tested, but still didn't do what I needed it to.
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Re: Any successful clearcoats over Magic Marble paints out there?

Whoa... blast from the past here

Things I've learned... Use Spraymax or Eastwood 2k clear if you must use a rattle can clear. Builds great and is compatible with every type of paint I tried swirling with... I never did try any Magic Marble paints

1Shot paints work great for swirling, but you have to thin them out a little...

Krylon Fusion Clear looked great after it was leveled and buffed out, about 6 months later it was checking and cracking... garbage

Here's a 1shot swirl with Spraymax 2k satin clear...

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